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About LinkBacksIsn't it amazing how two people can look at the exact same data, and find it so hard to agree on FACTS? without seeing the problem through their existing ideological prisim?Originally Posted by atlantic
Isn't it amazing how two people can look at the exact same data, and find it so hard to agree on FACTS? without seeing the problem through their existing ideological prisim?
Totally agree, we just had a crony "free market" for the rich and an over-regulated free market for the middle class, farmers and workers. Now we have socialism for the bankers and developers to bail them out.
What are you on ?
It reminds me of Tony Benn on the villification of Arthur Scargill - ''that man told the truth''. Which ought to have some value, in a parliament of all places.
Especially since the election of JH didn't bring us down the road to socialism the last time, and it wouldn't do so the next time either, should that come to pass. Worry not.
If JH was that good at manipulating the ''working class'' and ''uneducated'' he wouldn't have been voted out last time round, would he ?
It remains to be seen what happens next time, but there are some posters here who would give JH no chance - on the basis that it is precisely the ''working class'' and ''uneducated'' who are in no mood for ''loony'' leftwing analysis of the burning issues of immigration and multiculturalism.
So in the overall scheme of things, the great unwashed will be given a choice between 1. someone who was put jail for his convictions; and on the other hand, 2. some who should be convicted and put in jail.
That's democracy, baby. But in the meantime, tell us about Joe's exquisite powers of manipulation ?
Yes all we have had in this country is Government cronyism,clientelism ,corporate welfare.
Regulation for the big boys to keep the small boys out .Then they hop on their soap boxes and start spouting altruistic ,socialist claptrap to the voters,revving them up into a envy frenzy.Then tax the sh1te out them for their loyalty.
A champion of the people emerges with the age-old and appealing promise of "something for nothing" - to be financed through every-increasing taxes. Supply and demand are thrown out of gear - the overhead goes up; the effective use of human energy goes down; the standard of living is lowered because money cannot buy wealth that is not produced.
WEAVER, HENRY GRADY,
When one analyses ones true motivation for involvement in/and opinions on politics............ there are only 2 positions
1
Those who believe Politics Is a tool to improve their personal situation or their socio economic grouping in relation to the rest of society.
Generally= Right of Centre to Far right -
2
Those Who believe that politics should be used for the betterment of all of society equally, and believe in equal opportunity
Generally= Left of centre to far left.
The individual profile of how much money a person has has very little to do with it If a person falls into category two.
I fall into category two & I don't have ''nothing''. I believe those in catagory one are actually very insecure about how they would have faired in life without the security of a massive safety net of, (future)Inheritance, private education, etc.
Personally I was one of the lucky ones who used the capitalist system to open a business, and with the safety net of middle class parents, I knew that If it all failed I would not be on the streets.
Thankfully the business thrived and I sold It at a great profit.
I have much more respect for those who did it without the safety net I had, & I despise those people who use right wing politics to protect their privileged position. It is quite clear to me that they do this because they fear the value of their abilities in a fair & equal society.
Last edited by LeftOfCentre; 2nd March 2009 at 02:26 AM.
My nearest neighbor is 40,075.16 kilometers away
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Welcome To Ireland
Steal a little and - We'll put you in Jail
Steal a lot and - You'll get a payoff and pension.
That´s a fairly bold statement!!! I admire your cheek though.
You really haven't a clue, have you?
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
Typical reaction when one touches a nerve?
My nearest neighbor is 40,075.16 kilometers away
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Welcome To Ireland
Steal a little and - We'll put you in Jail
Steal a lot and - You'll get a payoff and pension.
Don't mind that filthy neocon capitalist pig, he just knows his ideology has failed and he's hurting
Yes. The idea that someone on the right would only become involved in politics to further their own personal agenda while someone on the left is doing it for the good of others shows just how some members of the left consist of the "holier then thou" brigade. That they're right and I'm wrong because I believe in small government and fiscal responsibility.
Says the PD...
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
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