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About LinkBacksI think those figures relate to the situation as of September, which may or may not have been overtaken by events.Originally Posted by dsmythy
I think those figures relate to the situation as of September, which may or may not have been overtaken by events.
We need tighter controls on immigration, and the enforcement of all deportation orders without exception and with no involvement by the courts. The latter have been an utter nuisance in the way they have impeded deportation orders. We are one of the few Western countries that gives free legal-aid in the asylum-appeals system, and outside m,oney is coming in from so-called 'philantropic' foundations like Atlantic Philantropies to support these legal-challenges. I too am against racism but I am firmly of the belief that a condition of preventing racism in this country is an asylum-policy that is fair but firm and a legal-immigration policy based on the needs of the Irish people rather than those of the Galway Tent-brigade and their Dickensian employment policies. And I agree with you when you say we should condemn the policies rather than the immigrants themselves. The political-class in Leinster House is on another planet from the majority of the public on asylum. When the ICI, IRC or RAR say "jump", they say "how high". It's time they started to get tough instead of promoting an asylum system based on lining the pockets of the legal-profession using 'compassion' as a trojan-horse.
For starters, there were 3,800 asylum applications in Ireland last year - hardly a number that is causing widespread unemployment. And Jeez, imagine, what sort of a country gives people the right to appeal a decision to send them back into an environment where they may face death or serious danger? The cheek of it!
Why not to admit that Ireland cannot provide quality of life, “what they deserved” to them and buy them one-way ticket
I somebody thinks that it is unfair, he can support them privately, but not from public finances
Lifeboat is not big enough for all
Last year 271 people (a majority of the 1,000 illegals removed from Ireland) were sent back to previous EU countries of entry, which obviously does not fall within the group you are referring to. The countries of origin of asylum seekers are disproportionately from Nigeria, considered a safe-country by the dept. Indeed it is such a safe country that Rotimi Adelbari reportedly travelled to it to receive an award in Nigeria - an odd behaviour from someone fleeing 'persecution' in that country.
Last edited by FutureTaoiseach; 6th February 2009 at 08:56 PM.
People have to assess their own priorities, strengths, and weaknesses. For some people, it's better to be a live mouse than a dead hero. For me, that's just half-way dead already.
There's a lot of schitt-talk going on now, and ignorant people are emboldened. My wife's colleague was told by some old hatchet at the checkouts to ''go back to her own country'' the other week, that she's taking an Irish person's job.
I find conflict very draining, but I have never, ever backed down from confronting anyone and everyone in the workplace. It's always been like that, but now that I'm married to an immigrant, it has an edge.
Nobody is going to physically threaten you now anyway, with the job situation as it is.
You may be ostracised, but you have to stand up and be counted.
1) I'm not sure it's obvious at all that those 600 don't fall into my figures.Last year 595 people (a majority of the 1,000 illegals removed from Ireland) were sent back to previous EU countries of entry, which obviously does not fall within the group you are referring to. The countries of origin of asylum seekers are disproportionately from Nigeria, considered a safe-country by the dept. Indeed it is such a safe country that Rotimi Adelbari reportedly travelled to it to receive an award in Nigeria - an odd behaviour from someone fleeing 'persecution' in that country.
2) Even if we accept that, it makes 4400
3 1 in 4 asylum seekers is from Nigeria, which makes 1000 per year from a country of 150,000,000 people. There are estimated to be at least 1,000 illegal Irish who go to the USA every year. If they thought applying for asylum would allow them to stay, they would.
4) Just because Nigeria is considered a safe country it doesn't mean that someone's personal circumstances don't mean that they are being persecuted.
5)What's your point?
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So what you seem to be saying is that every cock and bull story should be believed. I would remind you that Nigeria is larger than France and Germany combined, so that if they don't like the scene in Berlin then Bordeaux may be more to their taste, so to speak, but one thing is clear.....Nigerians are not in need of asylum in the accepted sense of that term and are therefore not welcome here.
I am not responsible for the illegal behaviour of some Irish abroad, and as I don't approve of it, refuse to accept responsibility for it. I don't agree with the govt's attempts to gain an amnesty for them in the US. So again, don't attribute a shared responsibility for the govt's policies to me, thank you very much. I oppose breaking the law in other countries and ours. I am totally consistent on this matter. And you are just been plain daft in implying that there is a consistency between claiming a country is persecuting you on the one hand, while travelling there to pick up awards.
Anyone thinking of emigrating,Poland may not be the best port of call!
Work Permits to Poland
A foreign resident who is interested in working in Poland must obtain a work permit and a working visa.
A work permit is granted in Poland subject to an examination to verify that it is in respect of skilled work that is not prejudicial to local employment.
In addition, on the basis of the work permit, an application must be made for a working visa.
Approval of the working visa will be granted only outside Poland. If the employee is in Poland, he must leave Poland to obtain the visa.
The working visa will remain valid for a maximum of one year with an option to extend it, as required.
The poles are bang on the money if you ask me!
Are the Polish not bound by the same agreement that allows their citizens to come and work here freely, ie any Irish person that wants to travel to Poland for work can do so?
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