Grim grim news....

[pfkf]

To be honest a GE needs to be called, so as we can have a real, open and frank debate on the economy, and then the people with best solutions should be voted into power, and for me making €16 Billion worth of cutbacks over the 5 years which is the equivliant to removing the health service from the economy.

Yes we need reform, but this level of cutbacks smacks of panic, and we need people in charge who know what they are doing. The last time Fine Gael were in Power there were 1,000 jobs being created a week, budget surpleses, low inflation, the reduction in corporations tax, free third level education.

We need real solutions and the only people coming up with these solutions are people that are stuck on the opposition benches. FF have run out of ideas, they are a party with no vision. 12 years of FF rule, they've bankrupted the country, brought us back to 1993 unemployment levels, left a generation with huge personal debt.

As I said before we need a GE so as a government can be elected on a mandate for economic reform. As Brian lenihan put himself "Lawyers don't make good accountants"
Now Richard Bruton may not be an accountant but he is a highly qualified economist and he understands better than anyone what is needed to be done to help us out of this FF mess.

[Factorem]

A GE would be too disruptive and too destabilising IMO.

The best we can hope for is a cabinet re-shuffle.

Imagine the Shinners having one third of the seats in Leinster House?

The country is too unstable and the risks of calling a GE now are tremendous.

[goosebump]

Now Richard Bruton may not be an accountant but he is a highly qualified economist and he understands better than anyone what is needed to be done to help us out of this FF mess.

How come he owns shares in Anglo Irish Bank then?

[spidermom]

While listening to one of the radio stations today,might have been newstalk, the economic correspondant said that the Irish gov would have to go back to the EU to explain WHY they had got it Sooooooooo wrong in their predictions.
They(i.e. the muppets currently and allegedly governing us) had predicted a 7.8% unemployment rate. Is this why this statement has appeared?


And your RIGHT it is indeed GRIM

[pfkf]

How come he owns shares in Anglo Irish Bank then?

As far as I know he sold them ages ago, earlier last year. It was a risk and if you go through the member interests you'll see he wasn't the only with bank shares.

[goosebump]

As far as I know he sold them ages ago, earlier last year.

'Fraid not. He still owns them.

TDs among those losing up to 90% in bank shares

It was a risk and if you go through the member interests you'll see he wasn't the only with bank shares.

Yes, but he's the only TD he claims to have seen the writing on the wall several years ago.

[Keith-M]

I'm think that the option of a national government must be on the table pretty soon.

[pfkf]

'Fraid not. He still owns them.

TDs among those losing up to 90% in bank shares




Yes, but he's the only TD he claims to have seen the writing on the wall several years ago.

Fair point he does still own, I got him mixed up with Noonan on that one, but from the article he owns shares in all the Irish banks, and he says that he holds on to them long term. We also don't know how many shares he has.

He has the one Finance spokesperson who has been proven correct on everything that he has said, unlike, Lenihan, unlike Cowen who said only 9 months ago that the fundementals of economy were strong, unlike Donnie Cassidy who was encouraging people to buy houses only a few short months ago.

Bruton was right about Benchmarking, he was right about the property boom, he is right about our exports and he has been correct on every issue that he has spoken on since becomining spokesperson in 2002. All you can hit over the head with, is that he owns an unknown amount of Anglo Shares long term.

[pfkf]

I'm think that the option of a national government must be on the table pretty soon.

Absolutely not, this is FF's doing, if they want to get out of this mess, they can call a GE, otherwise they can continue, with no plan, no vision and can continue to ignore sound proposals coming from FG.

[Odyessus]

Fair point he does still own, I got him mixed up with Noonan on that one, but from the article he owns shares in all the Irish banks, and he says that he holds on to them long term. We also don't know how many shares he has.

He has the one Finance spokesperson who has been proven correct on everything that he has said, unlike, Lenihan, unlike Cowen who said only 9 months ago that the fundementals of economy were strong, unlike Donnie Cassidy who was encouraging people to buy houses only a few short months ago.

Bruton was right about Benchmarking, he was right about the property boom, he is right about our exports and he has been correct on every issue that he has spoken on since becomining spokesperson in 2002. All you can hit over the head with, is that he owns an unknown amount of Anglo Shares long term.

What do you mean "he was right"? Other than crying; "It'll all end in tears", what alternative policies did he propose?

He was opposed to benchmarking? Will FG reverse it in government? Will his Labour partners let him?

He was right about the property boom? He wanted less houses built while FG were complaining that young people could not get on the "property ladder"?

It not enough to say you got it right by saying "you are doing it wrong", tell us how you would do it right.