Immigrant workers are now surplus to requirements.

[smitchy2]

More reactionary stuff here. Not surprising.
If Irish people would not do these low paid jobs last year why do they suddenly have a right to them now.
Most of these jobs are done well and in some cases better than Irish workers would do them.
These immigrants accept lower wages than Irish workers do and that is the primary reason why they are employed- not as many “sick” days either.
It is a similar tail to Irish emigrants who worked for very low wages in London and the US. A circle is almost complete…

[Twin Towers]

Dublin airport is fecking disgrace, an outrage. the biggest fecking construction job in the country and nearly 80% of the workforce are foreign. I know so many people in construction that have been layed off and are sitting at home wondering how they are going to pay for their mortgages.

People are becoming angry.

Picket the Dublin airport project with unemployed builders.

[tmesis2008]

Picket the Dublin airport project with unemployed builders.

On what grounds? Really, you're losing the run of yourself.

[Halo]

More reactionary stuff here. Not surprising.
If Irish people would not do these low paid jobs last year why do they suddenly have a right to them now.
Most of these jobs are done well and in some cases better than Irish workers would do them.
These immigrants accept lower wages than Irish workers do and that is the primary reason why they are employed- not as many “sick” days either.
It is a similar tail to Irish emigrants who worked for very low wages in London and the US. A circle is almost complete…

Complete ballssss

Most of the rates out there are standard so there is know difference in pricing and i do fecking know 100's builders that would give their right arm to get into that job

Go to poland and have a look at the standard of the work.....

[DaBrow]

The vast majority of immigrant workers are filling positions that could equally be filled by Irish workers who are finding themselves in ever lengthening dole queues. Immigrant labour is supposed to plug gaps in the national workforce and not supplant that workforce. Irish workers circulate their earnings in this economy while immigrants spend the minimum locally and send the rest to where their home and heart resides.

Immigrant labour is becoming a luxury we cannot afford, by which, in Lenihan speak we are living beyond our means.

Is there a link?

I'm been thinking this for years and so have many irish people........... I'd have a recruitment cap across all industries in the private when it comes to foreign workers and jobs in Ireland. If there were no Irish workers available for a position; then offer the job to someone else, not the other way round!!!!!


Especially now when statistics prove that for all the jobs created over here, most went to non-nationals that are displacing Irish workers whom are now suffering far more hardship than anyone else at this moment.

[Halo]

On what grounds? Really, you're losing the run of yourself.

However has been running this country for the last 10 years has certainly lost the run of themselves. Over the last week people i have been talking are fearful for the future and some are becoming angry. At this rate we will be approaching anarchy by mid 2010

[DaBrow]

More reactionary stuff here. Not surprising.
If Irish people would not do these low paid jobs last year why do they suddenly have a right to them now.
Most of these jobs are done well and in some cases better than Irish workers would do them.
These immigrants accept lower wages than Irish workers do and that is the primary reason why they are employed- not as many “sick” days either.
It is a similar tail to Irish emigrants who worked for very low wages in London and the US. A circle is almost complete…

This tactic of accepting longer hours and less pay is what is fuelling anger; it is ruthless and vile. Selling yourself as slave labour is appalling and very low........even to stay in a job.

We did this in America during the 1860's which I am not proud of when I learned about it; and started a race to the bottom of the barrell along with bad relations. Shamefully it was a short-time afterwards when we gained control of the unions and later barred others from joining.

[Halo]

Is there a link?

I'm been thinking this for years and so have many irish people........... I'd have a recruitment cap across all industries in the private when it comes to foreign workers and jobs in Ireland. If there were no Irish workers available for a position; then offer the job to someone else, not the other way round!!!!!


Especially now when statistics prove that for all the jobs created over here, most went to non-nationals that are displacing Irish workers whom are now suffering far more hardship than anyone else at this moment.

Heres on for you. Why would they all be going home if they didnt have jobs, as i stated couple a days ago you get more on the dole in the south than you do in the north for working a 38hour minimum wage week. rent payed, health and a load of other things.

The point is not to got the dole the point is that most of the foreigners are staying and bleeding the system. they will then try to get a day or two a week cash with their dole and sure they're flying, much better than being in latvia.

And i most certainly am not reactionary but i met with some of my workmates today who are assessing the situation out there and its not good, most of them with mortages and children and when you see the amount of foreign workers employed in the jobs that are left, this government is slowly breeding so called reactionaries.

Government job in rathmines, big swimming pool, was in there couple of weeks ago and it is full of foreigners, yes mostly employed by subbies but it is just yet another example.

[Trans-Siberian]

Lenihan recently said that this country still needs immigration. They're not going to be shutting the doors anytime soon you know.
With regards to the foreign doctors, we can't really turf them all out but I always wondered why universities like Trinity seem to allocate approximately two thirds of the places in Medicine to foreign students and about one third to Irish students (are my figures accurate there?). The foreigners have to pay a packet then to the university and the Irish have to get close to 600 points to get a place. Can this be changed? Do you really have to get 600 points to be able to study Medicine? Should we not be trying to turn out more Irish doctors or am I just talking through me aarshe.

This is an economic decision. Foreign medical students in Irish universities pay huge sums to study here and this revenue is considered to good to pass up by giving more places to irish students.

[DaBrow]

Heres on for you. Why would they all be going home if they didnt have jobs, as i stated couple a days ago you get more on the dole in the south than you do in the north for working a 38hour minimum wage week. rent payed, health and a load of other things.

The point is not to got the dole the point is that most of the foreigners are staying and bleeding the system. they will then try to get a day or two a week cash with their dole and sure they're flying, much better than being in latvia.

And i most certainly am not reactionary but i met with some of my workmates today who are assessing the situation out there and its not good, most of them with mortages and children and when you see the amount of foreign workers employed in the jobs that are left, this government is slowly breeding so called reactionaries.

Government job in rathmines, big swimming pool, was in there couple of weeks ago and it is full of foreigners, yes mostly employed by subbies but it is just yet another example.

I know how you feel really.

I used to work in Technical Support for a Bank and nearly 2/3 of the office including the managers were foreign. They'd always converse amongst themselves in their own native languages when they weren't working; of course you wouldn't know what they could be saying.

We would have avoided all this madness and prevented this widespread anger:

If were like the japanese who have the toughest immigration system in the world; they let in only 100,000-200,000 non-nationals every year for a set amount of time for what jobs are available and nothing else. Most of them are there for only a year and the same number leave annually.

This strict system would be perfect for us ; they use the Jus Sanguin Law allowing descendants to claim citizenship regardless of generation without much restriction and they assimilate and integrate quite easily.

The Greeks also have this law aswell.