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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftfemme22 View Post
    Incorrect, those British companies where threatening to move off the back off the Irish Governments state intervention in the banking sector. It had nothing to do with Ireland's lower corporation tax. But going on your understanding of what happened, what was the basis of this threat, who where they threatening? Did it work?

    Also we are surrounded by western European countries in a far better position to stimulate their economies because they understand that public services do not come cheap and they tax for them accordingly through proper well thought out and historically proven progressive tax systems.





    Are we attracting them? I don't see the airports full of these frontiersmen desperate to escape the yokels of their native nanny states.



    Plany of expats live in France and Sweden and enjoy a higher standard of living than they ever could on the emerald isle. Many of those who did return from France ans Sweden rue the day they did. Locked as they are into albatross mortgages, crippling costs of living and an economy going down the crapper faster than any other in the EU



    I seriously think you live on another planet. You slavish belief that the Irish are in someway enamoured by the everyman for himself garbage of the far right in the US clearly indicates you have no idea what people really want, especially in a time of unprecedented economic crisis which was created by lunatic short changing tax policies of FF and the PDs.

    The games over pat, you should accept your fate gracefully instead of straining the last ounce out of this hamfisted ideological nonsense.
    THe UK Treasury has been interpreting international tax law very aggressively and was going to tax earnings of overseas subsidiaries before repatriation of earnings to the UK,which would be a major tax disadvantage of UK tax residency. That led many major companies to threaten moving HQs to Dublin,which forced Treasury to back down. One important company moved to Dublin around the time the threats were made a few months ago.

    THe Irish government is deliberately generous in its interpretation of international tax law to attract multinationals,which results in a very big tax take from them despite low tax rates and generous interpretations on issues like intercompany transfer pricing.

    As for immigrants, most of the Irish expats who returned have stayed. Immigration is still occuring on net basis,despite rising emigration. To judge a country,all you need to know is whether people are entering it or leaving it!

    Albatross mortgages are a problem but when people are reckless financially,they pay the price. A fool and his money are soon parted,unfortunately.

    France is comfortable for those with jobs but it has a very serious problem with social exclusion of unemployed minorities mainly because its extremely high employer payroll taxes prevent job creation.THis tension with minorities has led to the rise of Le Pen's neofascist party which has about a third of the vote in the south of France.

    Many advanced EU welfare states have the same destructive payroll taxes because they can't restrain government spending. And they also have very serious social problems with minorities,with rising tensions with Muslims in Holland and violent racism in East Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    THe UK Treasury has been interpreting international tax law very aggressively and was going to tax earnings of overseas subsidiaries before repatriation of earnings to the UK,which would be a major tax disadvantage of UK tax residency. That led many major companies to threaten moving HQs to Dublin,which forced Treasury to back down. One important company moved to Dublin around the time the threats were made a few months ago.

    THe Irish government is deliberately generous in its interpretation of international tax law to attract multinationals,which results in a very big tax take from them despite low tax rates and generous interpretations on issues like intercompany transfer pricing.

    As for immigrants, most of the Irish expats who returned have stayed. Immigration is still occuring on net basis,despite rising emigration. To judge a country,all you need to know is whether people are entering it or leaving it!

    Albatross mortgages are a problem but when people are reckless financially,they pay the price. A fool and his money are soon parted,unfortunately.

    France is comfortable for those with jobs but it has a very serious problem with social exclusion of unemployed minorities mainly because its extremely high employer payroll taxes prevent job creation.THis tension with minorities has led to the rise of Le Pen's neofascist party which has about a third of the vote in the south of France.

    Many advanced EU welfare states have the same destructive payroll taxes because they can't restrain government spending. And they also have very serious social problems with minorities,with rising tensions with Muslims in Holland and violent racism in East Germany.
    You simply haven't a clue what you are talking about do you.
    None of of your so called analysis bears up to to scrutiny, especially within the context of our EU partners experience. Your hyperbole is simply juvenile rhetoric contorted to fit an ideology that has failed and in spectacular fashion. As usual you resort to contrived and distorted platitudes in a desperate attempt to sound coherent and rationale.

    Silly and irrelevant. Almost pathetic,and therein lies the future for such as you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Doyle View Post
    I suspect you would use that excuse regardless of how efficient the public sector is and in the face of any overwhelming evidence to support it.
    How often have you had reason to ring or call into any of there offices. The tax office ? Road tax office, The HSE?

    Have you ever had the misfortune of having to go through an approval processs with any government department ? To try and get a new technology, product or service approved ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkey321 View Post
    How often have you had reason to ring or call into any of there offices. The tax office ? Road tax office, The HSE?

    Have you ever had the misfortune of having to go through an approval processs with any government department ? To try and get a new technology, product or service approved ?
    I have, never a problem. Health and safety issues are properly thoroughly checked. Image what it would be like if 50,000 were put on the dole as is being suggested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftfemme22 View Post
    You simply haven't a clue what you are talking about do you.
    None of of your so called analysis bears up to to scrutiny, especially within the context of our EU partners experience. Your hyperbole is simply juvenile rhetoric contorted to fit an ideology that has failed and in spectacular fashion. As usual you resort to contrived and distorted platitudes in a desperate attempt to sound coherent and rationale.

    Silly and irrelevant. Almost pathetic,and therein lies the future for such as you.
    So you give up on addressing the arguments by using ad hominem attacks. You are incapable of seeing the big picture when it doesn't fit with your conventional nanny welfare state ideology that expects the government to run most facets of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor View Post
    Are there enough vacancies about the place?
    Yes, but they're not in this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    So you give up on addressing the arguments by using ad hominem attacks. You are incapable of seeing the big picture when it doesn't fit with your conventional nanny welfare state ideology that expects the government to run most facets of life.
    You haven't presented an arguement. You present gobbledogook that is kicked to touch at every turn yet still you persist in peddling it.

    It can be tiresome engaging with someone who doesn't give a toss how often he is shown to be talking out his arse or comprehensively shown to telling lies.

    Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftfemme22 View Post
    You haven't presented an arguement. You present gobbledogook that is kicked to touch at every turn yet still you persist in peddling it.

    It can be tiresome engaging with someone who doesn't give a toss how often he is shown to be talking out his arse or comprehensively shown to telling lies.

    Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade.
    You need counselling for antisocial blogging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    You need counselling for antisocial blogging.
    Say's he who is proposing that 50,000 public servants be dumped onto the dole.

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