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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    I'd love to know what Cowen thinks of all this, Ahern is basically inferring that he's a complete muppet.
    I think everyone is on to that fact now.
    Its only a chat, we ain't the world council.
    In 2000 the Women's Institute in Britain gave Tony Blair the slow hand clap to demonstrate their contempt.
    [COLOR="Red"]It was dignified, restrained and effective.[/COLOR]Doesn't Bertie deserve the same scorn. No shouting, no abuse, no agression just a relentless slow clap whenever he speaks in public would be enough to end that man's presidential fantasy.
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    isn't Cowen his boss? If i said my boss had fcked everything up he'd fire me. Is Cowen gonna even have words? He should tear him a new one and punish him. THis is an outrageous comment. It's like a footballer being taken off at 2-1 up with the other team fighting back and then going on tv after and blaming his replacement and the other 10 players for the eventual 3-2 defeat. (we're the manager by the way as we select the team )

    is Cowen too much of a wuss to call him out on this disgraceful lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    I'd love to know what Cowen thinks of all this, Ahern is basically inferring that he's a complete muppet.
    Well, that might be one of Ahern's few correct inferences.

    With Ahern as Taoiseach and Cowen as Minister for Finance, it seems that the economy was at the mercy of TWO crazy, incompetent muppets (and I'm not convinced the situation is any better now!).


    Here's a piece by Alan Ruddock from the Sunday Independent last January:

    Behind the smugness is a clueless Brian Cowen
    January 27 2008

    The more time passes, the less impressive Brian Cowen becomes, and the more we realise that he has only one gear. Cowen may be a consummate bar-stool debater, he may be able to bully and browbeat opposition spokesmen or media interviewers, he may be able to digest and regurgitate a brief from his officials better than any of his Cabinet colleagues, but he is no statesman. On Friday, he was given an opportunity by RTE's 'News at One' to calm the nation's jitters about the current financial turbulence, but instead of reassurance tempered by concern, we were treated to the narrow politics of a Fianna Fail party hack.

    On the economy he was complacent, bordering on smug: we'll be fine, he said, because his December budget was a minor miracle in foresighted economic management.

    On the stock markets, he was dismissive. The current chaos was a simple correction, caused not by market fears of what was coming next but by market overvaluation in the past. Nothing to worry about, really, just speculators getting their fingers burned.

    On Bertie Ahern's problems, he was at his contemptuous best: he has no time for vulgar personal politics because politics is about issues -- as long, of course, as those issues do not include 'vulgar' things like ethics or morality or truth or integrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian Hermit Monk View Post
    Well, that might be one of Ahern's few correct inferences.

    With Ahern as Taoiseach and Cowen as Minister for Finance, it seems that the economy was at the mercy of TWO crazy, incompetent muppets (and I'm not convinced the situation is any better now!).


    Here's a piece by Alan Ruddock from the Sunday Independent last January:

    Behind the smugness is a clueless Brian Cowen
    January 27 2008

    The more time passes, the less impressive Brian Cowen becomes, and the more we realise that he has only one gear. Cowen may be a consummate bar-stool debater, he may be able to bully and browbeat opposition spokesmen or media interviewers, he may be able to digest and regurgitate a brief from his officials better than any of his Cabinet colleagues, but he is no statesman. On Friday, he was given an opportunity by RTE's 'News at One' to calm the nation's jitters about the current financial turbulence, but instead of reassurance tempered by concern, we were treated to the narrow politics of a Fianna Fail party hack.

    On the economy he was complacent, bordering on smug: we'll be fine, he said, because his December budget was a minor miracle in foresighted economic management.

    On the stock markets, he was dismissive. The current chaos was a simple correction, caused not by market fears of what was coming next but by market overvaluation in the past. Nothing to worry about, really, just speculators getting their fingers burned.

    On Bertie Ahern's problems, he was at his contemptuous best: he has no time for vulgar personal politics because politics is about issues -- as long, of course, as those issues do not include 'vulgar' things like ethics or morality or truth or integrity.
    There was a thread on this a while back about Cowen's undeserved reputation for competency and shrewdness on the economy. The smart-alecky putdowns and gruff dismissals of the opposition bely an emperor with not too much in the way of clothes. He's basically a Fianna Fáil hatchet-man which some people seem to have confused with gravitas or ability. I remember one contemptible utterance of his during the '07 campaign when he compared the FG economic platform to 'trading the car in for a Lada'. Glad to see this smartass being hoisted by his own petard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian Hermit Monk View Post
    Well, that might be one of Ahern's few correct inferences.

    With Ahern as Taoiseach and Cowen as Minister for Finance, it seems that the economy was at the mercy of TWO crazy, incompetent muppets (and I'm not convinced the situation is any better now!).


    Here's a piece by Alan Ruddock from the Sunday Independent last January:

    Behind the smugness is a clueless Brian Cowen
    January 27 2008

    The more time passes, the less impressive Brian Cowen becomes, and the more we realise that he has only one gear. Cowen may be a consummate bar-stool debater, he may be able to bully and browbeat opposition spokesmen or media interviewers, he may be able to digest and regurgitate a brief from his officials better than any of his Cabinet colleagues, but he is no statesman. On Friday, he was given an opportunity by RTE's 'News at One' to calm the nation's jitters about the current financial turbulence, but instead of reassurance tempered by concern, we were treated to the narrow politics of a Fianna Fail party hack.

    On the economy he was complacent, bordering on smug: we'll be fine, he said, because his December budget was a minor miracle in foresighted economic management.

    On the stock markets, he was dismissive. The current chaos was a simple correction, caused not by market fears of what was coming next but by market overvaluation in the past. Nothing to worry about, really, just speculators getting their fingers burned.

    On Bertie Ahern's problems, he was at his contemptuous best: he has no time for vulgar personal politics because politics is about issues -- as long, of course, as those issues do not include 'vulgar' things like ethics or morality or truth or integrity.
    The man who rose without a rippleWhat did he ever do of note in any ministery he held?
    Its only a chat, we ain't the world council.
    In 2000 the Women's Institute in Britain gave Tony Blair the slow hand clap to demonstrate their contempt.
    [COLOR="Red"]It was dignified, restrained and effective.[/COLOR]Doesn't Bertie deserve the same scorn. No shouting, no abuse, no agression just a relentless slow clap whenever he speaks in public would be enough to end that man's presidential fantasy.
    -3.75,-3.23

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    Bertie is a spoofer - he was then and he is now.

    The terrible reality for him is that he knows his public career is over & its never coming back.

    He should devote himself to charitable causes - raising money and accepting money (this time on behalf of others) would be right up his street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    Bertie is a spoofer - he was then and he is now.

    The terrible reality for him is that he knows his public career is over & its never coming back.

    He should devote himself to charitable causes - raising money and accepting money (this time on behalf of others) would be right up his street.
    This remindes me of a Fr Ted episode.
    Its only a chat, we ain't the world council.
    In 2000 the Women's Institute in Britain gave Tony Blair the slow hand clap to demonstrate their contempt.
    [COLOR="Red"]It was dignified, restrained and effective.[/COLOR]Doesn't Bertie deserve the same scorn. No shouting, no abuse, no agression just a relentless slow clap whenever he speaks in public would be enough to end that man's presidential fantasy.
    -3.75,-3.23

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    Biffo should take a leaf from Willie John McBride's book and get his retaliation in first on this cocky little b@st@rd from DNS.

    Also thought that the comment on joining the IRA if he was not from such a strong FF household is as good as endorsing the IRA and their past actions.

    Get Des O'Neill and the others back on the job at Mahon asap so we can get this pain into prison and have him treated, it is defo the start of his "cognitive impairment", by the time Mahon reports he will be foaming out his mouth/hole.

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    To his credit, at least he didn't blame it on some woman, as would be true to form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stanley View Post
    Biffo should take a leaf from Willie John McBride's book and get his retaliation in first on this cocky little b@st@rd from DNS.

    Also thought that the comment on joining the IRA if he was not from such a strong FF household is as good as endorsing the IRA and their past actions.

    Get Des O'Neill and the others back on the job at Mahon asap so we can get this pain into prison and have him treated, it is defo the start of his "cognitive impairment", by the time Mahon reports he will be foaming out his mouth/hole.
    In respect of that utterance of his I think the crystal would have been a better nickname for him.
    He had a face for every occasion.
    Its only a chat, we ain't the world council.
    In 2000 the Women's Institute in Britain gave Tony Blair the slow hand clap to demonstrate their contempt.
    [COLOR="Red"]It was dignified, restrained and effective.[/COLOR]Doesn't Bertie deserve the same scorn. No shouting, no abuse, no agression just a relentless slow clap whenever he speaks in public would be enough to end that man's presidential fantasy.
    -3.75,-3.23

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