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    Very disappointed with Richard Bruton's performance. He was giving out because taxes went up, and spending was cut: Both at the same time.

    You can't have it both ways Richard!


    Burton is proving even worse.

    "This budget reeks of panic measures" - Jeebus Joan, have you not heard about the meltdown of the Global Financial system! Like, HELLO!
    "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdckelly View Post
    Prepare by getting the hell out of here?
    Yes, an extra euro on every 100 you earn....how will you cope...

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    miriiam asking about the bailout now. tom being evasive but cant keep smile off face.

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    Combat poverty agency is also kaput and will no longer be independent of government - the logic presumably being, hammer the poor and then get rid of their best advocacy group. Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Sorry, I wasn't listening.

    This is his 7th Opposition response to a Budget right, and he has 3 more to go?

    I suppose at least he doesn't have to keep writing new ones.

    Well, I'm not necessarily a FG supporter so I have no axe to grind either way, but I think in fairness to him and trying to be as objective as possible, it was a very good response...it did have general criticisms that I presume he had in his pocket (perhaps from previous years as you suggest), but he also made a very incisive analysis of the actual budget he'd just heard presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droghedasouth View Post
    Particularly in the early part of his speech, Richard wiped the floor with Lenihan and Cowen. Maybe the best speech of his life in the first half.
    will it be online anywhere? rte turned him off ( now there is a supprise )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauli View Post
    The budget? Useless, visionlessness and mendacious. No courage, no seeing beyond the short term. Typical, really.
    Surely you didn't expect anything else? Very naive of you if you were.
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    On radio 1 just now Mary Hanifin said that, having been in cabinet since 2002, she had never seen anything like the pre-budget cabinet meetings - "some of them were on Saturdays and Sundays"

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Sorry, I wasn't listening.

    This is his 7th Opposition response to a Budget right, and he has 3 more to go?

    I suppose at least he doesn't have to keep writing new ones.
    In the first case, it is your loss as unlike his opponents, he actually knows what he is talking about ,

    In the second case, that is the country's loss.

    And people are getting plenty of opportunity to realise it.

    Soft option budget by a government still in denial; only 25% of the 3.5% increase in current expenditure will go on social welfare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digout View Post
    will it be online anywhere? rte turned him off ( now there is a supprise )
    The debate is on RTE2

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