Time for Agriculture to Stand on its own Feet

[gulliblepleb]

The scandal of the State subsidizing Agriculture continues. In this current year the State will spend 1.9 billion running the Department of Agriculture, to be topped up with another 1.4 billion form the EU


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The Farming sector have made much more selling Development Land and selling Sites for one off houses than from farming and still qualify for State Aid while selling Sites.

Giving State aid to businesses with huge Capital value is a joke.

[Duth Ealla]

The joke is your thread my friend not Irish agriculture.

You'd take away the funding but no doubt you never thought about taking away the restrictions.
Are you not aware that the Irish farming sector wants to move away from the overly burdened restrictions that the EU imposes on it. Probably not since you thread contains nothing new at all.

Do you not know that the agri-food sector still accounts for around 25% of net foreign earnings.

That In 2002, Ireland exported 445,000 tonnes of beef worth €1,185 million.

In 2002 the Agri-food industry’s annual output rose to over €16billion and had exports valued at €6.7billion.

Over 130,000 people are employed directly and you are whining about 1.9 billion.

The only thing you can suggest is that they are capital rich. But if you put some thought into it you would have seen how stupid that suggestion is. What happens if 130,000 farms put lots up for sale.

I really have to say that you dont know the least about what you are talking. Have very little understanding of the importance of agriculture and the prospects for Irish farming and generally seemed to be pissed about something and are only taking it out on farmers based on some antiquated view of the agri-sector.
I thought this garbage was finally done with. Ah well.

[GJG]

The joke is your thread my friend not Irish agriculture.

You'd take away the funding but no doubt you never thought about taking away the restrictions.
Are you not aware that the Irish farming sector wants to move away from the overly burdened restrictions that the EU imposes on it. Probably not since you thread contains nothing new at all.

Yeah, 'cos it's such a drag not being able to pump slurry into the drinking water of the people who pay for your massive subsidies and poison their food with every known chemical.

[joemomma]

Are you not aware that the Irish farming sector wants to move away from the overly burdened restrictions that the EU imposes on it.

Do they really? Well that's all right then.

[gulliblepleb]

The joke is your thread my friend not Irish agriculture.

You'd take away the funding but no doubt you never thought about taking away the restrictions.
Are you not aware that the Irish farming sector wants to move away from the overly burdened restrictions that the EU imposes on it. Probably not since you thread contains nothing new at all.

Do you not know that the agri-food sector still accounts for around 25% of net foreign earnings.

That In 2002, Ireland exported 445,000 tonnes of beef worth €1,185 million.

In 2002 the Agri-food industry’s annual output rose to over €16billion and had exports valued at €6.7billion.

Over 130,000 people are employed directly and you are whining about 1.9 billion.


The only thing you can suggest is that they are capital rich. But if you put some thought into it you would have seen how stupid that suggestion is. What happens if 130,000 farms put lots up for sale.

I really have to say that you dont know the least about what you are talking. Have very little understanding of the importance of agriculture and the prospects for Irish farming and generally seemed to be pissed about something and are only taking it out on farmers based on some antiquated view of the agri-sector.
I thought this garbage was finally done with. Ah well.

There will still be farming after the handouts are taken away. Land will be cheaper and the cost of moving to larger economies of scale will be cheaper.

Let the polluter pay for cleaning up their enterprises just like every other sector

have you reckoned the cost of subsidies in reckoning the export sector

My cousin drags down 15K a year in state aid for keeping 6 sheep on a few hundred acres of mountain. Now defend that.

The notion of paying subsidies to farmers subsidies who sell sites for over 150K is a sad joke on the Taxpayer.

Surely you don't suggest that the value of exports would decrease substantially if subsidies were abolished

almost 2 billion a year poured down the drain subsidising farmers.

Let them take out mortgages or sell sites to finance their farm development schemes.

Should we give subsidies to the construction industry?

[theyshootPDsdontthey]

Yeah, 'cos it's such a drag not being able to pump slurry into the drinking water of the people who pay for your massive subsidies and poison their food with every known chemical.

The problem with crypto in Galway was caused by the locals performing an activity an activity enjoyed by the wife of Avriim Grant (the guy who used to mis-manage Chelsea) namely they drank their own wee. Their own sewerage went into the lake that their water came from.
The council originally tried to blame agriculture.

[theyshootPDsdontthey]

My cousin drags down 15K a year in state aid for keeping 6 sheep on a few hundred acres of mountain. Now defend that.

The notion of paying subsidies to farmers subsidies who sell sites for over 150K is a sad joke on the Taxpayer.

Surely you don't suggest that the value of exports would decrease substantially if subsidies were abolished

almost 2 billion a year poured down the drain subsidising farmers.

Let them take out mortgages or sell sites to finance their farm development schemes.

Should we give subsidies to the construction industry?

You are rather a stupid fellow cos you should do what your cousin does. Jaysus if the money is that handy to get then your even a bigger ass.

The thing you need to realise is that when a farmer applies for a payment he is signing up to stay in farming for 5 years (this is different to being in Reps).
Secondly, your cousin if he is in a mountainous area has land which is designated as either an NHA or SAC and he is performing a social function by maintaining a habitat which the public want to see preserved.
Thirdly, would you like this country to be relying on the likes of Robert Gabriel and his Zanu chums for grub. In the current financial situation do you know what price food would be if we (I include the EU in this) were relying on the likes of Putin to feed us.

The system might not be perfect but no one starves or has to queue or food.

PS You're unlikely to get 150k for a site on a mountain.
PPS The market for sites has become somewhat reduced if you haven't noticed.