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    Collectivised farming

    What's your opinion of collectivised farming? I would be strongly in favour myself of setting up voluntary collective farms in Ireland.

    The advantages of this would be that farm employees would become part of the public sector and work for a guaranteed wage rather than be subjected to fluctuations in the market. Due to a roster system they would receive better hours (35 per week), be able to take holidays and days off and not constantly have to do split shifts ie milk the cows at dawn and then have to milk again 10/12 hours later when they should be finished up.

    Also the government would be able to have greater say over what we produce agriculturally in that we could plan food production ie how much dairy, beef, crops, biofuels, organic etc is needed/wanted rather than letting farmers continue producing what is not needed or having to pay farmers not to produce.

    Resources could also be pooled and farmers could be supplied and facilitated with better and safer technolgy. Bigger farms are more efficient than small ones when using machinery.

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    We dont go for that lefty carry on down the country . Youll just have to make do with collectivised allotments in the suburbs comrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Collective Farm
    What's your opinion of collectivised farming? I would be strongly in favour myself of setting up voluntary collective farms in Ireland.

    The advantages of this would be that farm employees would become part of the public sector and work for a guaranteed wage rather than be subjected to fluctuations in the market. Due to a roster system they would receive better hours (35 per week), be able to take holidays and days off and not constantly have to do split shifts ie milk the cows at dawn and then have to milk again 10/12 hours later when they should be finished up.

    Also the government would be able to have greater say over what we produce agriculturally in that we could plan food production ie how much dairy, beef, crops, biofuels, organic etc is needed/wanted rather than letting farmers continue producing what is not needed or having to pay farmers not to produce.

    Resources could also be pooled and farmers could be supplied and facilitated with better and safer technolgy. Bigger farms are more efficient than small ones when using machinery.
    I believed the russians tried it and it was not a roaring sucess

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewiegriffin
    We dont go for that lefty carry on down the country . Youll just have to make do with collectivised allotments in the suburbs comrade
    Do you support the Limerick soviet of 1919?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Collective Farm
    What's your opinion of collectivised farming? I would be strongly in favour myself of setting up voluntary collective farms in Ireland.

    The advantages of this would be that farm employees would become part of the public sector and work for a guaranteed wage rather than be subjected to fluctuations in the market. Due to a roster system they would receive better hours (35 per week), be able to take holidays and days off and not constantly have to do split shifts ie milk the cows at dawn and then have to milk again 10/12 hours later when they should be finished up.

    Also the government would be able to have greater say over what we produce agriculturally in that we could plan food production ie how much dairy, beef, crops, biofuels, organic etc is needed/wanted rather than letting farmers continue producing what is not needed or having to pay farmers not to produce.

    Resources could also be pooled and farmers could be supplied and facilitated with better and safer technolgy. Bigger farms are more efficient than small ones when using machinery.
    I believed the russians tried it and it was not a roaring sucess
    I would prefer to see it based on the Hungarian model of 50s and 60s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Collective Farm
    Quote Originally Posted by stewiegriffin
    We dont go for that lefty carry on down the country . Youll just have to make do with collectivised allotments in the suburbs comrade
    Do you support the Limerick soviet of 1919.
    Certainly , t'was a noble exercise . This country has changed an awful lot since though . For the worse imo , in terms of peoples awareness to the possibilities of radical change .

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    I'd prefer community supported agriculture projects. People in a locality contribute a set weekly amount, and "own" a share of a local farm. Their contributions pay the wage of the farmer(s) and cover running costs. In return they get their produce provided, and a share in any profit the farm makes.

    I beleive such a scheme is begining in Cloughjordan in Co. Tipp, home of the eco-village project (although I understand this is a seperate enterprise).
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    Quote Originally Posted by yehbut_nobut
    I beleive such a scheme is begining in Cloughjordan in Co. Tipp, home of the eco-village project (although I understand this is a seperate enterprise).
    Thats been "begining" for 20 years now. How long do these people expect to live?

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    [quote=Twin Towers]
    Quote Originally Posted by "yehbut_nobut":3gec8yyr
    I beleive such a scheme is begining in Cloughjordan in Co. Tipp, home of the eco-village project (although I understand this is a seperate enterprise).
    Thats been "begining" for 20 years now. How long do these people expect to live?
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    So hard to tell if that's some sort of attempt at humour or not. Oh well.

    As far as I know, the farm project only began this year. I don't know how long the eco-village has been running.
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    Off with ya to Belarus
    Quote Originally Posted by The Collective Farm
    What's your opinion of collectivised farming? I would be strongly in favour myself of setting up voluntary collective farms in Ireland.

    The advantages of this would be that farm employees would become part of the public sector and work for a guaranteed wage rather than be subjected to fluctuations in the market. Due to a roster system they would receive better hours (35 per week), be able to take holidays and days off and not constantly have to do split shifts ie milk the cows at dawn and then have to milk again 10/12 hours later when they should be finished up.

    Also the government would be able to have greater say over what we produce agriculturally in that we could plan food production ie how much dairy, beef, crops, biofuels, organic etc is needed/wanted rather than letting farmers continue producing what is not needed or having to pay farmers not to produce.

    Resources could also be pooled and farmers could be supplied and facilitated with better and safer technolgy. Bigger farms are more efficient than small ones when using machinery.
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