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    Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%

    Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%
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    "Goodbody Stockbrokers halved its forecast for Irish economic growth this year and said profit at the country's largest companies will be less than it previously anticipated.
    Dermot O'Leary, chief economist at Dublin-based Goodbody, said gross domestic product will expand 1.1 percent this year rather than 2.3 percent. He lowered his 2009 prediction to 2 percent from 2.5 percent.
    ``The latest evidence suggests that Irish consumer-spending growth will slow markedly this year on the back of weaker employment prospects and falling confidence levels,'' O'Leary said in a report published today. A 1.1 percent growth rate would be the lowest since 1986. ..."


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    Re: Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%

    1% would be quite impressive, seeing that the UK and US are in major downturns. In euro terms, the UK economy is now 10% smaller than it was in January.
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    Re: Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%

    With growth of only 1.1% and inflation at 5% (as it is now), would we not already technically be in a type of recession, sorry, 'inverse growth' period? That is, we are not growing fast enough to overcome the inflationary drag on tax revenues, etc.
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    Re: Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%

    Quote Originally Posted by seabhac siulach
    With growth of only 1.1% and inflation at 5% (as it is now), would we not already technically be in a type of recession, sorry, 'inverse growth' period? That is, we are not growing fast enough to overcome the inflationary drag on tax revenues, etc.
    Oh, heaven give me strength. This always comes up. GDP growth figures are always adjusted for inflation by the CSO before they're released, always. That's why the CSO calls them real GDP growth rates since they're real and add to national income. However, they do publish nominal GDP growth rates which are real GDP growth rates multiplied by the rate of inflation. If the CSO says growth is 1.1%. It is 1.1% End of. Never mind inflation when reading them.
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    Re: Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%

    Quote Originally Posted by seabhac siulach
    With growth of only 1.1% and inflation at 5% (as it is now), would we not already technically be in a type of recession, sorry, 'inverse growth' period? That is, we are not growing fast enough to overcome the inflationary drag on tax revenues, etc.
    Dude, you really shouldn't be posting on economy threads if you don't know the difference between real and nominal growth. Go read an economics book, hell it's probably even on wikipedia.

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    Re: Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%

    A little harsh, no?
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    Re: Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%

    [quote=Bray Head]
    Quote Originally Posted by "seabhac siulach":3bc85b1p
    With growth of only 1.1% and inflation at 5% (as it is now), would we not already technically be in a type of recession, sorry, 'inverse growth' period? That is, we are not growing fast enough to overcome the inflationary drag on tax revenues, etc.
    Dude, you really shouldn't be posting on economy threads if you don't know the difference between real and nominal growth. Go read an economics book, hell it's probably even on wikipedia.[/quote:3bc85b1p]

    Dudes, it was a question...my background is not in economics...far from that dismal science...
    Thanks for the clarification.
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    Re: Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%

    It was a good question (on statistical presentation rather than economics) , providing a useful clarification for many on this political site.
    The purpose of this website, as I see it, to provide a forum for people to get information relevant to politics - so please leaving the bitchy sneering and high minded tones to the uber-pessimists.
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    Re: Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%

    [quote=seabhac siulach][quote="Bray Head":30c38lrw]
    Quote Originally Posted by "seabhac siulach":30c38lrw
    With growth of only 1.1% and inflation at 5% (as it is now), would we not already technically be in a type of recession, sorry, 'inverse growth' period? That is, we are not growing fast enough to overcome the inflationary drag on tax revenues, etc.
    Dude, you really shouldn't be posting on economy threads if you don't know the difference between real and nominal growth. Go read an economics book, hell it's probably even on wikipedia.[/quote:30c38lrw]

    Dudes, it was a question...my background is not in economics...far from that dismal science...
    Thanks for the clarification.[/quote:30c38lrw]

    Apologies, I shouldn't have been so rude. It's just that there's far too many posts on p.ie from people whose lack of facts doesn't stop them having an opinion.

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    Re: Goodbody cuts Irish economic growth forecast to 1.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by "seabhac siulach":5tsgzcyw

    Dudes, it was a question...my background is not in economics...far from that dismal science...
    Thanks for the clarification.
    Apologies, I shouldn't have been so rude. It's just that there's far too many posts on p.ie from people whose lack of facts doesn't stop them having an opinion.[/quote:5tsgzcyw]

    Dang it, I thought the whole POINT of politics was not to allow the facts to colour one's conveniently chosen opinions......

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