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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntary View Post
    Are you sure about that? I don't know about this particular case, but senior management is often resident abroad, just to avoid these horrendous taxes.
    Portugal or Malta ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uganda View Post
    What a shame I never made that point.

    I simply asked making waves (and didn't get an answer, as usual) after he confiscates all the apartments and houses, how would he propose to allocate any vacancies that would arise?

    It can't be on the basis of rent. So, what then? Allocate a spare dwelling to those who shout loudest on Djeeow Dhuffy? Or those who get the most pics of their kids in a Garda station.

    Or those who have undergone a re- education programme?
    Clearly it should be those who can demonstrate the greatest ideological purity.

    Right-deviationists, saboteurs, kulaks, left-deviationists, bourgeoisie and wreckers need not apply.

    As they will dealt with summarily by the organs of State Security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlovian View Post
    Portugal or Malta ?
    When you're on 1M+ annual income you find your ways.
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    so Johnny(a carpenter),Mary(a junior doctor) ,Joe( software engineer previously worked for Dell) ,Teresa( a nurse) have all emigrated to Canada,US, Australia,NZ.They all worked in the Dublin area and lived in the Commuter Belt.So the HSE and the likes of F***b**** , Ggl have trouble recruiting staff within Ireland to keep its business going in a Tax beneficial location .So all three employers have to import from the third world "employees" to keep the show on the road, thus housing and accommodation is needed to house these immigrants.

    Johnny and Mary lived at home and there was no need for housing/accommodation for them.The current housing stock was sufficient.I've heard anecdotally in Britain from the 1960s to the 1990, that 7/8 people used to live in the same house and sleep in the same beds with 4people on days and the other 4 on night shifts.The beds were occupied 20 hours within every 24 hours.The electric and gas bills were higher than normal as there was 2 breakfast times, 2 dinner times , 2 tea times ,2 supper times.A lot of washing bed clothes, ironing, rubbish and waste bins etc.This is going to happen here in Ireland or maybe it has been going on for some time but the Local Authorities are not letting on.

    How do you think that so many poor immigrants can live within Dublin on low paying , precarious employment terms.? People are living in overcrowded accommodation , with absentee landlords completely unaware of it.All the landlord wants is his rent going into his account each month.S/He is totally unaware that 4 people are paying this rent but the only person he knows about is the name that rented the property.This has been going on in the UK for decades but our "Authorities" haven't cottoned on yet.When these guest immigants want a place of their own , it's on the Housing list they go.

    They have been here for years , paying taxes and by law the council has to "House " them.Meanwhile Johnny,Mary,Joe Teresa are settling down overseas getting married and taking out different citizenships and are contributing to the New Homeland which will not give them a house for nothing.I could cry at how our state is destroying itself from the inside out.Or am I too cynical?Thinking it out too deep? Am I seeing the wood from the trees?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fifilawe View Post
    so Johnny(a carpenter),Mary(a junior doctor) ,Joe( software engineer previously worked for Dell) ,Teresa( a nurse) have all emigrated to Canada,US, Australia,NZ.The all worked in the Dublin area and lived in the Commuter Belt.So the HSE and the likes of F***b**** , Ggl have trouble recruiting staff within Ireland to keep its business going in a Tax beneficial location .So all three employers have to import from the third world "employees" to keep the show on the road, thus housing and accommodation is needed to house these immigrants.Johnny and Mary lived at home and there was no need for housing/accommodation for them.The current housing stock was sufficient.I've heard anecdotally in Britain from the 1960s to the 1990, that 7/8 people used to live in the same house and sleep in the same beds with 4people on days and the other 4 on night shifts.The beds were occupied 20 hours within every 24 hours.The electric and gas bills were higher than normal as the was 2 breakfast times, 2 dinner times , 2 tea times 2 supper times.A lot of washing bed clothes, ironing, rubbish and waste bins etc.This is going to happen here in Ireland or maybe it has been going on for some time but the Local Authorities are not letting on.How do you think that so many poor immigrants can live within Dublin on low paying , precarious employment terms.People are living in overcrowded accommodation , with absentee landlords completely unaware of it.All the landlord wants is his rent going into his account each month.S/He is totally unaware that 4 people are paying this rent but the only person he knows about is the name that rented the property.This has been going on in the UK for decades but our "Authorities" haven't cottoned on yet.When these guest immigants want a place of their own , it's on the Housing list they go.They have been here for years , paying taxes and by law yhe council has to "House " them.Meanwhile Johnny,Mary,Joe Teresa are settling down overseas getting married and taking out different citizenships and are contributing to the New Homeland which will not give them a house for nothing.I could cry at how our state is destroying itself from the inside out.Or am I too cynical?Thinking it out too deep? Am I seeing the wood from the trees?
    Try using paragraphs. I can't see your words for the letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_anderson View Post
    Wrong.
    If the market rent for a 2 bed is €2,000 and an increase in supply brings the price down to €1,800, any landlord advertising at €2,000 will just have a vacant property.
    And I don't know a single landlord that wants a vacant property.

    Furthermore, rents fell between 2008 and 2013.
    Thus proving that landlords cannot force prices up beyond the market rate.
    It was only when demand started picking up that rents recovered.
    Wrong.
    Landlords in some areas charge what they like. If tenants can't afford it the tax payer supplements them, especially so with HAP. The same goes for first time buyers. We give tax aid to the customer base who cannot afford the prices private industry sets. It cannot continue. But by then the good aul' boys will have made their money and any crash will be our fault for partying or going mad etc.

    Furthermore...

    A new all-time high for rents has now been set for the seventh quarter in a row, according to the latest report from the property website Daft.ie.

    Its quarterly Rental Report says rents rose across the country by an average of 10.4% last year, while the mean monthly rent during the final quarter of 2017 was €1,227.

    In Dublin, the increase in rents in the year to December was 10.9%. That is 26%, or almost €380 a month, higher than the previous peak in 2008.

    In the cities of Galway and Waterford rents rose by just over 12% last year , while in Limerick city, the increase was nearly 15%.

    In Cork, the rise in rents was almost 8%.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0213/940275-daftie-rents/
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    Liveline today is bordering on hilarious but actually sick making.

    One lady thinks people on low pay or zero hour contracts or in any of the yellow pack jobs created in the past 20 years should be getting mortgages just like she did. Homelessness is ones own fault it seems and has nothing to do with a society where the movers and shakers grab top pay, perks and pensions while squeezing the minions till the pips squeak.
    She knows all this because someone who worked in housing services says it is so.

    And next we hear the system made a family homeless because the granny flat she built beside her parents breached planning rules...it was not physically connected to the house. And the State now pays HAP for her new residence for the person it made homeless.

    It’s easier it seems to blame the homeless than fix a failing system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarshBuzz View Post
    Clearly it should be those who can demonstrate the greatest ideological purity.

    Right-deviationists, saboteurs, kulaks, left-deviationists, bourgeoisie and wreckers need not apply.

    As they will dealt with summarily by the organs of State Security.
    That's certainly the mentality of your beloved fine gael: anyone who does not own property or is part of the business class can die on trolleys, live their entire lives in penury and under threat of homelessness or emigrate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer View Post
    Dont stress yourself bokuden.

    He is either on holidays or working 24/7 on the issue.

    So many issues to sort in 24 hours to make everything perfect in Ireland again
    he is on holidays 24/7/365 as far as the homeless are concerned.Even with 10 Eoghan Murphys on the case they will not solve it because there is not the political will to do it.After all as maggie thatcher said "There is no such thing as a society but a collection of individuals each out for themselves competing in the rat-race where it is "The survival of the fittest" .If Eoghan Murphy performed this bad in a private business he'd be fired before his probationary period of employment ended.This is common practice in the UK , if a person hasn't mastered the job in the probationary period(usually 2-3 Months) s/he is not given a fulltime contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntary View Post
    Who would build these properties? Would state 'builder' bid up construction workers wages in order to 'steal' workforce from private builders?

    Or.. Would the state open gates to non-eu construction workers and hire direct from abroad?
    State can hire construction companies from abroad - will save some money and their worker won't be entitled to jobseeker benefit
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