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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    Virtue signalling posers who are incapable of fixing anything.
    They support the red tape that blocks housing densities and do a great acting job shedding crocodile tears about the housing crisis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popular1 View Post
    you would think that that would a perfectly logical and reasonable position to take
    how on earth can a small country on the edge of Europe be expected to house
    people from countries with multiple the populations of Ireland when it cant even house
    its own people.
    The growth rate of Irish cities is just a drop in the bucket compared to China where whole cities are built in anticipation of population growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expose the lot of them View Post
    Do tell, how high would like these apartment complexes to be and where in the "inner suburbs" would you locate them?
    In architecturally mediocre suburbs,bunches of adjacent houses, maybe a minimum of four at a time, could be bought and demolished to build seven storey high rises. The increased buying power from the latter would enhance the shopping facilities there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ionsniffer View Post
    how many social houses do we need?
    we really want to destroy the country building homes for those coming here to work for feck all?
    Immigrants on average are better educated than the Irish with many better paid. We have to keep growing the economy fast to pay for our vastly overpaid and overpensioned public sector, reduce the colossal national debt and finance huge future public sector pension entitlements as well as the 29 (or over 40?) acute care hospitals. By the way, six acute care hospitals would be enough if the ambulance service including helicopters were funded properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patslatt1 View Post
    In architecturally mediocre suburbs,bunches of adjacent houses, maybe a minimum of four at a time, could be bought and demolished to build seven storey high rises. The increased buying power from the latter would enhance the shopping facilities there.
    Do enlighten us as to what you consider "architecturally mediocre suburbs" ?
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    Leo says: "We have a €1.8 billion social housing budget for next year for housing, which will allow us to increase the number of social homes built to 3,800"
    It's simplistic, but that's €473,684 per home. Homelessness isn't just a social cost, it's a bloody huge economic cost.




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    Oct 2017 housing supply stats published
    Commencements: 1,588 nationally, 596 in four Dublin LAs
    Completions (based on ESB connection): 1,529 nationally, 557 in Dublin
    We need min of 2k units/mth nationally, 1k in Dublin just to meet new demand.
    Housing crisis got worse in Oct.




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    We may be getting close to the end game of the "housing crisis" now...enough hysteria to justify the FG government riding roughshod over those pesky local authorities to demand their cronies get to build anything anywhere they want.

    This has been a very obvious objective for the past few years as FG have ignored the warning signs and poured petrol on the flames in a high-profile but disingenuous attempt to avoid the crisis. Raising RA and HA, funding a help to buy (for new homes only), etc. all stoked up demand, but policies did nothing to generate supply (no site tax on serviced land, no change to Noonan's bizarre CGT amnesty, etc.).

    This is the perfect gift from FG to it's family and friends in the property business as they face into their last year or so in government, potentially forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post

    This is the perfect gift from FG to it's family and friends in the property business as they face into their last year or so in government, potentially forever.
    HoHoHo Merry Christmas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereWeGoAgain View Post
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    This is a common misunderstanding.

    The vast majority of the money spent on Social housing does not build social houses.

    The money goes to landlords via the Housing Assistance scheme (HAP) meaning that
    a floor is placed under rents in Dublin and ensuring landlords always have money available
    to them.
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