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    Expose the lot of them Expose the lot of them is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    For once I find myself agreeing with Patslat.

    Dublin is the most vertically challenged city in Europe. There is a phenomenal dearth of apartment complexes in the inner suburbs in exactly the locations where rental demand is the highest.
    Do tell, how high would like these apartment complexes to be and where in the "inner suburbs" would you locate them?
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    The BANANAs and NIMBYs will need to be faced down or we will not have a livable city. Just because someone wants a house and a non-overlooked garden in the city centre, doesn't mean it suits wider society to say that this is acceptable. If you want that sort of lifestyle, no matter how rich you are or how close you want to live to your mother, move to a house in the suburbs.
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    how many social houses do we need?
    we really want to destroy the country building homes for those coming here to work for feck all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall996 View Post
    Politicians should ignore voters??
    When selfishness on housing and taxation causes serious social diviions, yes. In an economic crisis of a socially divided society, do we want a political revolution with hard lefties like Sinn Fein and PBP in power? The average Dublin couple can no longer afford the average Dublin house despite the abundant supply of land. Keeping golf courses and vast parks everywhere shouldn't be more important than housing estates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raspberry tea View Post
    This could pave a very dangerous path, justifying politicians ignoring the rights of voters in this country - Do we need more housing and for what? We are already building on profitable fertile agricultural lands, people come to Ireland for the beautiful scenic views, even when you drive on the roads there is fields and trees as far as the eye can see, why do you want to spoil that with ugly urban sprawl, concrete jungles , not to mention the costly price tag the government will have to shell out for this courtesy of the tax payer, for people who don't want to pay tax and get everything for half nothing! Human overpopulation and constant human expansion into wildlife and agricultural areas is what is killing the planet and leaving us with very little food security! Do we really want to be a nation that can barely feed ourselves?
    Has it occured to you that affordable housing can economise massively on land by building to heights of up to seven stories instead of urban sprawl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raspberry tea View Post
    This could pave a very dangerous path, justifying politicians ignoring the rights of voters in this country - Do we need more housing and for what? We are already building on profitable fertile agricultural lands, people come to Ireland for the beautiful scenic views, even when you drive on the roads there is fields and trees as far as the eye can see, why do you want to spoil that with ugly urban sprawl, concrete jungles , not to mention the costly price tag the government will have to shell out for this courtesy of the tax payer, for people who don't want to pay tax and get everything for half nothing! Human overpopulation and constant human expansion into wildlife and agricultural areas is what is killing the planet and leaving us with very little food security! Do we really want to be a nation that can barely feed ourselves?
    Urban sprawl can be reduced and even eliminated by increasing building densities up to seven stories for affordable housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord View Post
    Building Houses to Home people from other Countries should that not be the responsibility of their countries of origin.
    Many of them have building trade skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uganda View Post
    Who controls Dublin city council?
    Councillors who pander shamelessly to NIMBY home owners who decide their elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall996 View Post
    And todays home seeker is tomorrows NIMBY. They're the same people.
    Political pandering to them will have dire social and political consequences and Hard lefty parties could gain political power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    For once I find myself agreeing with Patslat.

    Dublin is the most vertically challenged city in Europe. There is a phenomenal dearth of apartment complexes in the inner suburbs in exactly the locations where rental demand is the highest.
    God forbid a shadow from a four to seven storey building should fall on a Georgian house or even on boring Dublin streets cherished sentimentally for the rare old times.
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