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    Patslatt1 Patslatt1 is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    Look at this sh1t:

    https://euobserver.com/institutional/139630

    They are trying to further erode national sovereignty. Expect the next treaty to more or less end it.
    The awkward squad of Poland, Hungary and Czech Republic among others will resist attempts to undermine sovereignty but they could be bribed with EU grants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patslatt1 View Post
    Poland, Hungary and Czech Republic among others will resist attempts to undermine sovereignty but they could be bribed with EU grants.
    and then there will be war on the streets
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsReasonable View Post
    I hate the attitude of those who support Ireland's tax haven carry-on.

    'Hey we're Irish, if we don't cheat, we will lose. We're born losers. We have to cheat. We don't have what it takes to compete on a level playing field'.

    This attitude is pathetic and insulting; I don't buy the idea that the corporations would flee if we properly implemented our 12.5% rate. Not for one second.
    Ireland has disadvantages in its geographic island location on the periphery which adds to transport costs and reduces proximity on face to face contacts so important in business. Ireland also lacks economies of scale but to some extent businesss can scale up in the UK.

    These disadvantages could be overcome if the government was capable of good long term planning for STEM education,infrastructure development,affordable housing and management of excessively expensive public services like hospitals and policing.

    But without constitutional reform of the extreme proportional representation system, governments will continue to emphasise short termism designed to win the next election, the priorities being old age pensions, garda and nurses' pay and pandering to NIMBY home owners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxfordbhoy View Post
    If I remember correctly there were 3 or 4 promises made to swing the second vote on the Lisbon Treaty. As far as I know, none of these have been carried into Law. With the forced repayment to bondholders, the robbing of our fishing stocks and the likely takeover of the level of corporation tax (and any other fiscal instrument that suits them), it would seem an oportune time to get out of EU. This would also resolve the border debacle.
    But Irexit could cause an economic depression. And the UK might not let our unemployed in if we make Brexit difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ionsniffer View Post
    we have no control on flooding the country with cheap labour from Eastern Europe etc. fingers crossed when the eu is demolished this this will too.
    why you socialists support this is beyond me
    One fifth of Irish households have nobody working. Paddy is a bit workshy. And with housing in Dublin now unaffordable to the average couple, what's the point in working for many when social welfare creates an entitlement to an affordable low rent house or flat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patslatt1 View Post
    One fifth of Irish households have nobody working. Paddy is a bit workshy. And with housing in Dublin now unaffordable to the average couple, what's the point in working for many when social welfare creates an entitlement to an affordable low rent house or flat?
    This racist shyte again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Quirell View Post
    I voted yes and no. Got it wrong both times, but for me the people had spoken in the first referendum. I hadn't agreed with the outcome, but vox populi, vox dei and all that.
    So if the people spoke in the first referendum, who spoke in the second one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Mac View Post
    This racist shyte again
    The OECD in the past has criticised the government's failure to get people back to work and the number of households without work at one fifth is about the worst in the EU. A handy government trick to keep the politically embarrassing unemployment figures low was to make it easy to claim disability which is not counted as unemployment under the criterion of being ready, willing and able to work.
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