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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanetta View Post
    Looks like Donald's got his way with tax cuts

    US Senate passes sweeping tax overhaul bill - BBC News
    He didn't get away with anything, he succeeded in his tax reform plan, the courts don't have a say in taxation as they do in immigration. The result is a fasted period pf action. Trump hating is a form of mass hysteria, nothing to do with reality.
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    At a meetings of the UNECE parties in September the EU commission vetoed a proposal to allow citizens access to the EU Court of Justice on environmental matters. The problem with this post is that the Commission picks and chooses what it wants to take Ireland to task over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by making waves View Post
    The OP should read ..........could be used to end Ireland's ability to act as a tax haven for tax dodging clonglomerates.
    That's bollix, it means we ca no longer can make major decisions that effect what happens within our OWN borders, we are now a puppet state and FF and SF are loving it and defending it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northsideman View Post
    That's bollix, it means we ca no longer can make major decisions that effect what happens within our OWN borders, we are now a puppet state and FF and SF are loving it and defending it.
    If every EU country would have full sovereignty over the taxation, they could all stop MNC from moving profits across borders and then Ireland would get nothing. It would be enough if all EU countries stop recognizing internal cross-border money transfers between linked companies as business expense (like paying for patents use, or paying for using a brand name) to foreign subsidiaries. If Ireland do not compromise then something like that could happen and this would be a disaster for Ireland.
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    Or a dose of reality which is in Ireland's case a lot more serious. Presumably our GDP figures would drop precipitously on the Leprechaun Index were we suddenly unable to count financial warehousing of MNC turnover as the product of our economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntary View Post
    If every EU country would have full sovereignty over the taxation, they could all stop MNC from moving profits across borders and then Ireland would get nothing. It would be enough if all EU countries stop recognizing internal cross-border money transfers between linked companies as business expense (like paying for patents use, or paying for using a brand name) to foreign subsidiaries. If Ireland do not compromise then something like that could happen and this would be a disaster for Ireland.
    So what are you saying? Do we let others set our rates, spell it out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northsideman View Post
    That's bollix, it means we ca no longer can make major decisions that effect what happens within our OWN borders, we are now a puppet state and FF and SF are loving it and defending it.
    Except the OP doesn't pretend that at all. The EU can't force tax alterations on an unwilling country. It's that simple. No amount of squinting or hysterics will make it so.

    On the wider corporation tax issue: If the US DO get their tax changes in and the UK follow suit in 2019, it's going to be more a case of the EU dropping their rates to closer to us than forcing everyone higher.
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    It is disturbing. The OLP is QMV.
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    Where the Commission finds that a difference between the provisions laid down by law, regulation or administrative action in Member States is distorting the conditions of competition in the internal market and that the resultant distortion needs to be eliminated, it shall consult the Member States concerned.

    If such consultation does not result in an agreement eliminating the distortion in question, the European, Parliament and the Council, acting in accordance with the ordinary legislative procedure, shall issue the necessary directives. Any other appropriate measures provided for in the Treaties may be adopted.
    We have a veto. If this is not the case then we were lied to. The fact that this is on the agenda now means that there are clearly some slimy manoeuvrings going on at EU level to rob us of our sovereignty. The EU is about empire and its powers should not be enhanced. It is totally illegitimate and were it a nation, it would not qualify for EU entry as it would not meet the democracy criteria. It is illegitimate and all forms of resistance against it are justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northsideman View Post
    So what are you saying? Do we let others set our rates, spell it out?
    It was never about the rates. 12.5% would be accepted. 1% is what others struggle to accept.
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