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    Employers should weight Irish Medium Exam Results minus 10%

    Given the bonus marks available for Irish language medium exam canditates, State Examination Certificates should indicate the language medium of the Examination, to allow Employers to apply an appropriate weighting to these qualifications when recruiting.

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    Why?
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    thought that said weigh - very confused for a minute

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    PJ, you seem to have a big problem with the Irish language. In my view having attended an all irish school and getting the bonus marks in the LC would in fact be a big plus for any potential employer. It shows a hard worker, someone not afraid of a challenge, someone who will most likely be articulate in speech and writing (all of these remarks are about a person whose native language is not Irish ie, those not from the Gaeltacht) and all of these are very positive characteristics of any potential employee.

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    Their exam results are debased by the addition of unearned marks up to 10% inflated

    Employers should be aware of this deception, and misrepresentation of actual ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauriceenjack
    Their exam results are debased by the addition of unearned marks up to 10% inflated

    Employers should be aware of this deception, and misrepresentation of actual ability.
    First of all, go away and find out the actual scoring system used in State exams, for papers completed in Irish

    Secondly, the ability to be fluent enough in a second language to do a full examination paper well enough, to make any significant bonus from the Irish component, would cast that potential in a better light, than someone who has difficulty in basic spelling and grammar, in their first spoken language

    You should think about that PJ
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    Re: Employers should weight Irish Medium Exam Candidates

    Quote Originally Posted by pauriceenjack
    Given the bonus marks available for Irish language medium exam canditates, State Examination Certificates should indicate the language medium of the Examination, to allow Employers to apply an appropriate weighting to these qualifications when recruiting.
    Go away! And remove the FF logo

    And you also show your ignorance. About 70% of Leaving Cert Graduates go onto further education so employers will be looking at their third level qualifications instead
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    So the extra marks they are given for doing the exam in Irish should be taken off them by employers at interview stage? Well, that's a ridiculous proposal. If you're opposed to bonus marks for doing exams in Irish, that's a perfectly valid stance, but the solution would be to campaign to remove the bonus.

    This proposal is pure daft. Then again, many of your posts relating to the Irish language seem to have that in common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauriceenjack
    Their exam results are debased by the addition of unearned marks up to 10% inflated

    Employers should be aware of this deception, and misrepresentation of actual ability.
    Your employers should be made aware of the deficiencies in your legal training and the misrepresentation of your actual ability.

    [quote=18 Brumaire]
    Quote Originally Posted by "18 Brumaire":uggudhbe
    Quote Originally Posted by pauriceenjack
    Would the doctrine of estoppel apply in that they are only declaring independence now and repudiateing a treaty a hundred years after its alleged breach?
    You will have to explain that to the uninitiated.
    Quote Originally Posted by 18 Brumaire
    Quote Originally Posted by pauriceenjack
    The fact that you did not bring the action for your grievence at the time of cause or at the earliest opportunity to bring the action, tends to barr the action at a later stage, due to the apparent acceptance of the alleged wrong.
    I think what you are referring to is the doctrine of laches; vigilantibus et non dormientibus lex succurrit

    The doctrine of estoppel applies where one person makes to another a clear and unabiguous representation of fact intending that other to act on it, if the representation turns out to be untrue, and if that other does act upon it to his prejudice, the representor is prevented or "estopped" from denying its truth.
    Just thought I'd check that you knew what you were talking about, because you usually dont.

    And of course you didn't [/quote:uggudhbe]

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    Say English is the first official language of the UK, but Welsh, Scots-Gaelic, and Irish-Gaelic are all made second official languages too, so students can choose to sit their exams through any of those languages.

    Should students who sit the exams through english receive an extra 10% in each subject, because they're using the first official language of the state? Isn't that discriminating against people who wish to sit through Welsh, etc?

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