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About LinkBacksThis is beginning to remind me a bit of The Sacred Highway being built in Co. Meath....
This is beginning to remind me a bit of The Sacred Highway being built in Co. Meath....
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Actually builders build where people can afford to buy.Originally Posted by Odyessus
That explains why we have so many estates without any public transport or services in or around the Bog of Allen for people working in Dublin.
There are times when you are simply required to be impolite. There are times when condescension is called for!
- Aaron Sorkin writing as President Bartlet to Obama, NYT 21/09/2008
You can't build a smart economy based on dumb decisions.
- Richard Bruton 18/12/2008
except this is a necessary rail line being built to connect an international airport and a suburb that will grow bigger than most Irish cities, to the centre of Dublin, with no obvious impacts on world heritage. The M3 is a money spinning FF scandal
We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.
Are you a builder yourself, or a FF party faithful? YOu certainly sound like it or else you have no understanding of this issue.
Builders and developer build where people want to live or do business. Where would you expect them to build? in the Bog of Allen? As for "coining it", what do you think they are in business for, the good of their health? Ask any businessman why he went into business.
Builders build where politicians let them. Where people want to live and work is immaterial
We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.
The following are extracts from the conclusions of the second interim Flood/Mahon report at http://www.planningtribunal.ie/images/Report.pdf. They represent findings by a tribunal set up by the Oireachtas based on evidence presented to it.If you have evidence of criminal activity I advise you to inform the Gardai.
If not please refrain from remarks which could be libelous.
"PAYMENT TO MR. BURKE AT BRIARGATE, SWORDS IN THE WEEK PRIOR TO
THE 15TH JUNE 1989
16-16 The meeting at Mr. Burke’s home at Briargate, Swords, Co. Dublin, in the week prior to the
15th June 1989, was specifically arranged by Mr. Michael Bailey and Mr. Burke so as to allow for the
payment of money to be made to Mr. Burke. The meeting was not arranged in order to receive a
political donation, but was arranged for the purpose of paying Mr. Burke money to ensure his support,
and his influence over others, so as to achieve the alteration of the planning status of the Murphy
company’s North Dublin lands, described as lots 1-6 in Mr. Bailey’s letter of the 8th June 1989
addressed to Mr. Gogarty…
16-17 The parties present at the meeting were Mr. Burke, Mr. Michael Bailey, Mr. Joseph Murphy
Jnr., and Mr. James Gogarty…
16-23 Mr. Burke assured those present at the time of the payment of monies to him that he
understood that the payment was being made in connection with the proposal to alter the planning
status of the Murphy lands and further assured those present that he would honour his commitment to
do so.
16-24 The payment received by Mr. Burke amounted to a corrupt payment and all present at the
meeting were aware that it was such."
I don't mean to be dismissive but I find it scary that what came out in the tribunal isn't common knowledge among the political literate classes.
The law locks up the man or woman, who steals the goose from off the common
But leaves the greater villain loose, who steals the common from off the goose.
Are you a builder yourself, or a FF party faithful? YOu certainly sound like it or else you have no understanding of this issue.
Builders and developer build where people want to live or do business. Where would you expect them to build? in the Bog of Allen? As for "coining it", what do you think they are in business for, the good of their health? Ask any businessman why he went into business.
No, I am neither, but I cannot understand the complaints that housing is being built near the Metro. Anywhere else this would be considered normal and rational, here it is viewed by some people as almost a crime against humanity.
Building high density appartments close to the Metro is a good thing.
The fact that it is the corrupt (as found by the Flood Tribunal) Baileys that will profit is anathema.
The co-incidence that this site is but a stones throw from Ray Burke's Briargate just adds to the disgust.
Alonso wrote that using the N1 route was obvious.
If you look at the development plans for Swords, you find that it is limited on the east by the M1 motorway.
Potentially more people could have benefited if they went up the center/west of Swords, away from the Bailey brother's site.
There are times when you are simply required to be impolite. There are times when condescension is called for!
- Aaron Sorkin writing as President Bartlet to Obama, NYT 21/09/2008
You can't build a smart economy based on dumb decisions.
- Richard Bruton 18/12/2008
Yes perhaps that would have been justifiable also. However, Swords and Malahide will eventually merge (if it can be believed they haven't already), with the M1 as a nice big severance. Despite what i said earlier, an underground straight through the town centre would be ideal - too expensive though.Building high density appartments close to the Metro is a good thing.
The fact that it is the corrupt (as found by the Flood Tribunal) Baileys that will profit is anathema.
The co-incidence that this site is but a stones throw from Ray Burke's Briargate just adds to the disgust.
Alonso wrote that using the N1 route was obvious.
If you look at the development plans for Swords, you find that it is limited on the east by the M1 motorway.
Potentially more people could have benefited if they went up the center/west of Swords, away from the Bailey brother's site.
And bear in mind that every site within a 800m to 1 kilometre radius will contrbute to the costs of Metro, as they will benefit greatly from associated increased densities.
We cannot control who owns land. This route makes sense as it is the closest available option for the town centre, which is most important. If the Baileys make a fortune from building a high quality high density development, like Charlestown, i see no problem with it, despite their murky past.
What p1sses me off when a cabal of cowboys use unsustainable, wasteful nonsense like the M3 to vomit a housing estate or an office park on an interchange and consign a generation to commuter misery.
We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.
"vomit a housing estate" I love it.
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