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    TommyO'Brien TommyO'Brien is offline

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    A sad day. Another part of Ireland killed by the Celtic Tiger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asset test View Post
    Sad for the employees of course. And I know that sounds glib, but it's meant.

    While Clerys had put a huge investment into bringing it up to date etc, I think it was and always will be associated with a very mature shopper. Nothing wrong with that, but a shop that size has to appeal to a wide audience.

    I remember my mother bringing HER mother there to buy rosary beads and holy statues! The place was crawling with nuns and priests at one point too.

    Sad day. but inevitable I think. I was in there the other week. Empty.
    Sounds a sad loss to me - a bit of "old" Ireland fading away.

    I know progress has to be made and all but I like old-fashioned department stores.

    The more like Grace Brothers it is the better!

    Were there Irish versions of Mrs. Slocombe and Mr. Humphries there?

    In all seriousness though it is awful for the people losing their jobs and I wish them the very best of luck. I hope the stores are taken over and perhaps another group could save at least some jobs there.

    Same thing as with Woolworths in the UK to be honest - it was the sort of store you always thought would be there, but a lot of people who bemoaned its passing admitted they hadn't actually shopped there in years.

    They just liked to know it was there - but only sales will keep a store open so if there's a shop you'd genuinely hate to lose, whether an independent one-off store or a big chain - then shop there! Or don't complain when it dies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
    A sad day. Another part of Ireland killed by the Celtic Tiger.
    What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asset test View Post
    The demise of Roches Stores is often spoken about in my family, young and old.

    You could get anything there from a hot water bottle to garden furniture and all the fashion in between.

    I wonder if Debenhams, who replaced Roches will last as long? I don't think the signs are all that great.
    Debenhams are fine
    Debenhams results raise hopes over consumer confidence | Business | The Guardian

    They probably need to rationalise a bit but even if the Irish business is struggling the UK can carry it. Clerys don't have that. If I were to wonder about anybody it would be Arnotts. Can't see it surviving as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fides View Post
    I can see someone like John Lewis moving in. Most jobs will be saved. Clerys couldn't reinvent themselves and spent a lot of money trying.
    John Lewis Partnership have been doing very well recently but they are focusing on growing their business in the UK so I can't see them branching out to Ireland quite yet.

    They had spent a lot of money but I don't think it was spent wisely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fides View Post
    Debenhams are fine
    Debenhams results raise hopes over consumer confidence | Business | The Guardian

    They probably need to rationalise a bit but even if the Irish business is struggling the UK can carry it. Clerys don't have that. If I were to wonder about anybody it would be Arnotts. Can't see it surviving as is.
    Anglo did a debt/equity swap there a few years back, did it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asset test View Post
    The demise of Roches Stores is often spoken about in my family, young and old.

    You could get anything there from a hot water bottle to garden furniture and all the fashion in between.

    I wonder if Debenhams, who replaced Roches will last as long? I don't think the signs are all that great.
    There was no demise of Roches Stores in business terms. They sold the business to Debenhams.
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    Very sad news

    I hope the staff are kept on but I think that in reality most will go

    Outdated format in a brilliant location

    Its years since I was in it though...
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    If they are to be taken over I'd lobby for John Lewis over Debenhams anyday, I think they've gone to the dogs now - crappy service and permanent false "sales". I hate Debenhams.

    Never had a John Lewis in Brum but we're getting one as part of the New Street rail station redevelopment, which is great.

    Funny - until the revamped Bullring about 10 years or so ago, Brum only had one department store which is mad for the second city with over a million people. There were two but Lewis's closed in the 80s I believe.

    Then Bullring opened and we got two more at once, Selfridges and Debenhams. We also have a small Harvey Nichols but it's not really big enough to call a department store TBH. We had a medium-sized regional one which opened later too so for a time we had five if you counted Harvey Nicks - but sadly the regional chain was taken over by House of Fraser so that branch was shut.

    Still it's nice to have 3 proper department stores and one mini one after years of having just the one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    There was no demise of Roches Stores in business terms. They sold the business to Debenhams.
    They didn't have a great deal of choice. The everything to all people department stores seem to be gone. Too many specialised stores opened up and took pieces of their business. Jack of all trades, master of none.
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