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    Telemachus Telemachus is offline
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    Areas of mass unemployment in Ireland

    Many interesting pieces of Information have come from the census data. I have been looking at some of the data sets and have been wondering how unemployment is measured. It seems to me the commonly referred to rate of 14.5%-15% seems off when I look at the census data which shows it at about 21%.

    Although the census is only a sample of data as such due to it depending of the willingness of people to fill it out( I know several people who never filled it out), it still is very useful as an indicator.

    I define % unemployed as
    =1-(('At Work')+'Retired (Total)' +Other+'Student (Total)' +'Unable To Work due to Sickness or Disability (Total)' )/'Total (Total who answered)'

    Here is the list of options in the employment question
    Looking For First Job (Total)
    Unemployed having Lost or Given Up Previous Job (Total)
    Student (Total)
    Looking After Home/Family (Total)
    Retired (Total)
    Unable To Work due to Sickness or Disability (Total)
    Other (Total)
    Total (Total)

    I have created 2 tables showing highest unemployment on a county level and then on a small area level to give a picture of the micro and macro level.

    Top 20 areas of unemployment by county/city/division.

    County division Census Respondents % Unemployd
    Wexford County 145,320 26%
    Donegal County 161,137 26%
    Offaly County 76,687 25%
    Longford County 39,000 25%
    Limerick City 57,106 25%
    Laois County 80,559 24%
    Louth County 122,897 24%
    Carlow County 54,612 24%
    Cavan County 73,183 24%
    Waterford City 46,732 23%
    Westmeath County 86,164 23%
    South Tipperary 88,432 23%
    Wicklow County 136,640 23%
    Monaghan County 60,483 22%
    South Dublin 265,205 22%
    Meath County 184,135 22%
    Waterford County 67,063 22%
    Kilkenny County 95,419 22%
    Roscommon County 64,065 22%
    Kerry County 145,502 22%
    Total: 2,050,341


    Top 20 Areas of unemployment at a small area level

    Small Area Census Respondents % Unemployd
    Galvone B - Limerick City 878 42%
    John's A - Limerick City 863 41%
    An Dúchoraidh - Donegal County 85 41%
    Garmna - Galway County 1,359 41%
    Tallaght-Killinardan - South Dublin 3,915 39%
    Glentworth C - Limerick City 524 38%
    Rathkeale Urban - Limerick County 1,479 38%
    Killeely A - Limerick City 1,445 38%
    Ballynanty - Limerick City 2,918 37%
    Scainimh - Galway County 684 37%
    Carthage - Donegal County 950 37%
    Blanchardstown-Tyrrelstown - Fingal 2,112 37%
    Cnoc na Lobhar - Mayo County 831 37%
    Tallaght-Fettercairn - South Dublin 7,607 37%
    Priorswood B - Dublin City 2,673 37%
    Knockdrin - Offaly County 189 37%
    Ballymun B - Dublin City 4,012 36%
    Na Monga - Mayo County 252 36%
    Knocknaheeny - Cork City 4,301 36%
    Shortcourse - Waterford City 274 36%
    Total: 37,351


    What is striking is that for 2 million people in the country unemployment rates well over 22%.

    Also is the very high number of blackspots in Limerick.

    As a contrast to this I show below the small areas of Ireland which seems to be remarkably unaffected.

    This is the top 20 lowest areas of unemployment in the country.

    It is clear the inhabitants of Ballyblood are hiding some secrets... , aside from that, the below may put credence to Tomans calls for a federal Ireland. Unless theres some particularly reasonable explanations for the relative low unemployment levels in the capital where 12 of 20 areas of the lowest unemployment are.

    Area Census Respondents % Unemployd
    Ballyblood - Clare County 123 2%
    Clonskeagh-Belfield - Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown 2,740 5%
    Gillabbey C - Cork City 1,563 6%
    Cappavilla - Clare County 1,038 7%
    Mansion House B - Dublin City 1,069 9%
    Blackrock-Booterstown - Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown 3,328 9%
    Rathmines East B - Dublin City 5,533 9%
    Bishopstown A - Cork City 1,326 10%
    Pembroke West A - Dublin City 4,673 10%
    South Dock - Dublin City 7,129 10%
    Rathmines East A - Dublin City 4,634 10%
    Pembroke East C - Dublin City 4,004 10%
    Mardyke - Cork City 636 10%
    Rathmines East D - Dublin City 2,723 11%
    Nealstown - Laois County 90 11%
    Glasheen B - Cork City 723 11%
    Rathfarnham - Dublin City 4,546 11%
    Whitehall A - Dublin City 3,545 11%
    Pembroke West B - Dublin City 3,174 11%
    Gillabbey A - Cork City 1,941 11%
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    How did your method differ from the official method, do you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by feedmelies View Post
    How did your method differ from the official method, do you know?
    Census self reported the rate at 19%, I differ in that I include 'Looking After Home/Family ' as a person available to work, but I will have to check for sure. I have no idea how the official unemployment rate is calculated.
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    Cobh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Cobh.
    Ah yes, a sleepy town, which i have a wide variety of stats on.


    Area Cobh Rural - Cork County Cobh Urban - Cork County Cobh Total
    Total All ages both genders 7,534 6,500 14,034
    Total Ethnicity 7,471 6,420 13,891
    White Irish 6,505 5,614 12,119
    White Irish Traveller 4 9 13
    % Irish Ethnicity 87.1% 87.6% 87.3%
    % Trav Ethnicity 0.1% 0.1% 0.1%
    % Div/Separated 10.3% 14.7% 12.4%
    % Single Mother Families 20.4% 25.3% 22.5%
    % Unemployed 19.6% 23.2% 21%
    % NonWhite Ethnicity 2.9% 2.6% 2.8%
    % 2+ Cars Owners 46.1% 29.7% 37.9%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telemachus View Post
    Ah yes, a sleepy town, which i have a wide variety of stats on.


    Area Cobh Rural - Cork County Cobh Urban - Cork County Cobh Total
    Total All ages both genders 7,534 6,500 14,034
    Total Ethnicity 7,471 6,420 13,891
    White Irish 6,505 5,614 12,119
    White Irish Traveller 4 9 13
    % Irish Ethnicity 87.1% 87.6% 87.3%
    % Trav Ethnicity 0.1% 0.1% 0.1%
    % Div/Separated 10.3% 14.7% 12.4%
    % Single Mother Families 20.4% 25.3% 22.5%
    % Unemployed 19.6% 23.2% 21%
    % NonWhite Ethnicity 2.9% 2.6% 2.8%
    % 2+ Cars Owners 46.1% 29.7% 37.9%
    Nice town during the day. The Russian sailors from a Russian Navy destroyer will be embarking this week too. Should make an interesting site when they meet the locals.
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    What about Letterkenny's rate, where I have relations?

    I'm guessing 25%, give or take a few points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin M View Post
    What about Letterkenny's rate, where I have relations?

    I'm guessing 25%, give or take a few points.
    Letterkenny Rural 24%
    Letterkenny Urban 24%

    What is remarkable is the areas that are not really experiencing the recession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telemachus View Post
    Letterkenny Rural 24%
    Letterkenny Urban 24%

    What is remarkable is the areas that are not really experiencing the recession.
    What is remarkable about them? With a few exceptions, they are all based in Dublin and Cork, the two largest cities and also the largest centres of commerce and industry.

    Is it possible that those country areas in Clare and Laois have experienced such high levels of emigration that their unemployment levels have dropped accordingly?
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    Great work Telemachus. Would love to see if you had any stats on Tuam or Ballinasloe
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