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    EFSF reported to be expanded to an incredible €3.5 Trillion

    Just out. This defies belief. They would sacrifice their first born for the deeply flawed Euro project

    Two weeks after Zero Hedge readers were informed about it, slowly the sell side is coming to the realization that not only will the EFSF have to be expanded (that much was known), but that Germany, and specifically the outright economy, will be on the hook by an unprecedented amount of money. And expanded it will have to be: not by two, not by three, but by a cool four times, to a unbelievable €3.5 trillion which according to Daiwa's Head of Economic Research, Grant Lewis, an action which will be necessary to convince financial markets of euro area resolve to save Italy and Spain. Says Lewis: "France, Germany contribution to EFSF’s capital would increase to 80% if Spain, Italy had to drop out of guarantee structure. Says France, German contingent liabilities would be > 50% of GDP if EFSF expanded; added to France, Germany current debt may trigger downgrades to both countries." Actually no. As we explained when we referred to a far more accurate report by Bernstein, merely a €1.5 trillion expansion in the EFSF, would mean that Germany is on the hook to the tune of €790 billion or 32% of German GDP. If France is downgraded, Germany essentially becomes the sole backstopper of the entire Eurozone, to the tune of €1.4 trillion or 56% of its GDP. Now let's assume Daiwa is correct, and the full amount under the EFSF has to increase to €3.5 trillion. That means that Germany "continent liabilities", in the worst case scenario where France again gets downgraded, and it likely will eventually, would surge to about €3.3 trillion, or an insane 133% of German GDP!

    Now let's put today's events in perspective.

    Basically what just happened an hour ago, is that the ECB gave a green light to use the SMP program to buy Italian and Spanish bonds: the two countries which recently put themselves into a self-imposed capital markets exile as we reported earlier. The problem is that the SMP's unsterilized purchasing capacity is de-minimis and it is merely a stopgap until the sterilized EFSF is enacted in its final form. The question is precisely what this final form will be: will it be €1.5 or €3.5 trillion. Nobody knows yet which is why Rehn refused to answer the question twice already today.

    Either way, let's assume EFSF gets clearance. At that point the SMP gets deactivated, and EFSF takes over.

    And here is where Germans get angry, because explicitly they end up backstopping everyone in europe! And the cost to them becomes 133% of their entire economy in a worst case scenario, which of course in this centrally planned world, is now guaranteed.

    So the ball is now basically in Germany's court: will the German export sector be ok with leaving the country on the hook to a complete implosion once the final European house of cards implodes, or, will German practically once again take over, and tell the ECB, the bureaucrats and every other insolvent European country to go shove it, in the process bringing back the D-Mark and returning to a life of quiet contentment without a customs, cultural or monetary union.
    Explaining How The Just Announced ECB Market Rescue Pledged 133% Of German GDP To Cover All Of Europe's Bad Debt | ZeroHedge
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    This is unbelievable.

    I think the Germans need to ditch the euro.

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    If true, and it is Zero Ledge then that's one of three
    Are we heading towards complete economic meltdown?
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    If you assume that every single country in the Eurozone decides to renege on all of its debt and stick Germany with it all. Unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malbekh View Post
    If true, and it is Zero Ledge then that's one of three
    Are we heading towards complete economic meltdown?
    Zero Ledge?! Ha ha!

    Its also reported on CNBC and other sources and its the reason that the Dow turned from 240 down to 130 up a short time ago (for the 50th time today, the bots are drunk today)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodbody View Post
    If you assume that every single country in the Eurozone decides to renege on all of its debt and stick Germany with it all. Unlikely.
    Thankfully the Weimer Republic hyperinflation event that is still within living memory of a few Germans. They will not accept massive amounts of this sort of QE and paying taxes to boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossy Heneberry View Post
    This is unbelievable.

    I think the Germans need to ditch the euro.
    If the Germans leave the €uro the DM will rocket in value and German exports will plummet. It's a beautiful Catch 22 really for the Germans.

    The €uro is keeping German exports cheap... Ditch it and Germany will plummet into a recession because folks like you and me won't buy increasingly expensive German goods.
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    The €uro is dying. Fiat money is worthless. Long live the Gold Standard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanner Island View Post
    If the Germans leave the €uro the DM will rocket in value and German exports will plummet. It's a beautiful Catch 22 really for the Germans.

    The €uro is keeping German exports cheap... Ditch it and Germany will plummet into a recession because folks like you and me won't buy increasingly expensive German goods.
    The other consequence will be a collapse of some of their banks which are exposed to euro debts.
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    If true this could well mean the EU superstate is only around the corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanner Island View Post
    If the Germans leave the €uro the DM will rocket in value and German exports will plummet. It's a beautiful Catch 22 really for the Germans.

    The €uro is keeping German exports cheap... Ditch it and Germany will plummet into a recession because folks like you and me won't buy increasingly expensive German goods.
    Thats the choice. The can is at the end of the road.

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