152LikesAre you trying to tell me that AIB is not a rotten bank?Originally Posted by jman0war
And all they have done for me recently is yank up interest rates while the ECB has been reducing them.
Are you trying to tell me that AIB is not a rotten bank?
And all they have done for me recently is yank up interest rates while the ECB has been reducing them.
The sentiment here is very real but there is a complete disconnection between society and the economy in political discourse and its very evident on P.ie. For some people its paramount that we lift the morale and spirit of Irish society as a precursor to sorting our economic woes. For others its irrelevant what state of health the collective mentality is in. Hence , the remarks such as "who cares" .. that's not my problem".. reference to people who need debt forgiveness as freeloaders or spongers . We need to address this disparity in the perception of what our problems are.
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It's just all become so polarised. It seems to me from this site - that it's those that didn't borrow on one side - and those that did on the other. It's divisive - I do fear for poor old Ireland.
Precisely it is divisive. Public service pitted against private business, mortgage holders pitted against renters, people going under pitted against people still survivng. You think its an accident that we are all picking holes in each other.
I have become convinced that there are professional government hacks on here deliberately trying to stir animosity between sectors of society. You cant open your mouth in favour of some socially sympathetic notion without a deluge of reference to spongers, wasters , freeloaders and the inevitable... My taxes arent going to be used to bail out idiots who overborrowed.
What's the answer? In my scant experience and fledgling knowledge of the situation - I firmly believe that the housing crash was only the first step of a much bigger scenario - The mortgage catastrophe is waiting in the wings.
Maybe they are fleecing you to cover their losses on tracker mortgages ?
He may be annoying at times, but David Mc Williams is reasonably consistent on this very issue.
David McWilliams » Time to defuse the mortgage time-bomb
It's divisive not because there's some bogeyman pulling the strings but precisely because people's goals are actually in conflict. We can't all be rich, simple as. The idea that everyone can have it all is Bertie-era stuff that needs to be flushed and forgotten. Everyone got a raise every year, taxes were cut and house prices kept going up. Unions bosses and employers groups were both equally happy, rubbing shoulders at GAA matches 'sure aren't we all great'.
This is something the Irish truly do not grasp, it's easy to be friends when there's (seemingly) nothing at stake. You might think the guy you buy your paper off in the morning is a great friend cause he always has a smile and a little chat. But what about your car insurance company, plumber, bank manager. B4sta4rds, right? Relationships are much tougher between people with competing interests. Small business people understand this, most others don't including those in big corporates/public sector etc.
The Irish need to grow the f^&% up. Life is hard. People look out for themselves. If something seems too good to be true then it probably is.
Will have a read - ta
