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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Doyle View Post
    The Banking crisis caused the recession and killed the economy which added to the decline in revenue coupled with the property collapse.
    That's utter rubbish. Nothing more than a convenient way to blame everything on somebody else.

    The Recession was caused by a cyclical worldwide recession that was triggered by the Credit Crisis of 2008. This let to a collapse in property prices which triggered the banking crisis.

    The banking crisis is a symptom of our problems. It isn't the cause of anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loner View Post
    How does he compare with Cowen?
    He doesn't.

    Cowen understands the policies, plays a part in forming them and can even remember what the policy objective is and how the policy is designed to achieve it.

    You may not agree with Cowen’s policy choices, but you can't say he doesn't know them inside out.
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    On a lighter note, thought this was very funny - Miriam on her Good FG/Bad FG

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    Why are people so surprised that Kenny hasn't unveiled FG's manifesto on an early morning radio show at least six months out from the general election? FG will fight the election when the election is called.

    FG produced a shadow budget 2010 which identified cuts while Labour produced a statment that could have fit on a postit note. The public response? Labour rally in opinion polls while FG stay where they were.

    The lesson learned? Forget about solutions for now and hound this bloody government out of office.

    From the return of the Dail at the end of this month until the budget. politics will become a blood sport of such ferocity that the Greens will be left yearning for the decency of a stag hunt. FG and Lab will be competing to land blow after blow on this rogue regime. FF & The Greens are already on the canvass and the count has begun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonic View Post
    He doesn't.

    Cowen understands the policies, plays a part in forming them and can even remember what the policy objective is and how the policy is designed to achieve it.

    You may not agree with Cowen’s policy choices, but you can't say he doesn't know them inside out.
    Yep, he knows them inside out.. except how much they'll cost and how long they will be necessary for.

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    Only solution imf

    “It’s déjà vu all over again — but this is different from Greece,” said Daniel Gros of the Center for European Policy Studies in Brussels. If Irish banks “can’t refinance themselves, the numbers get very big very quickly,” he said.

    Mr. Gros pointed out that loans to depleted Irish banks from the European Central Bank were about 40 percent of the country’s G.D.P., a dynamic that he contended was unsustainable and would ultimately lead to Ireland seeking assistance from Europe and the I.M.F.

    “I think things are going to get worse,” he continued. “And over time, the E.C.B. will have to refinance a very large part of the Irish banking system.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    EK did an interview on Morning Ireland today in which he said that FG would maintain the capital spending programme, not cut health/education/social welfare, and that there would be no new taxes (water, property etc).
    So he's basically saying he'll fillet the quango's and non-essential services?
    Nothing wrong with that if he follows through.

    Obviously, as leader of FG, he has to put out a fairly bland and non-controversial message, but are voters really going to swallow this? Surely, there is an appetite amongst the electorate for a little bit more straight talking at this stage?
    Why would he show his cards now though? All that would happen is that FF would copy and paste the policies and then go "look, no difference!".

    I understand you'd like to find faults with Kenny but a single sentence from an interview in isolation doesn't make much of an argument. OF course you could fault their policies like good/bad bank but it'd be hard to explain why the govt is now copying them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonic View Post
    Try not to get sick until that happens. There's a good man.
    I'm sickened all the time actually by the damage caused by the croneyism and corruption of your FF buddies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squib View Post

    Come on FG, do the country a favour and ditch Kenny, he's a massive liability!

    There's a lot of floating voters out there that would vote FG if there was a change in leadership.
    Yep, we heard the same line too when Noonan was leader and then Bruton before him Need I go on ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    That's utter rubbish. Nothing more than a convenient way to blame everything on somebody else..
    Not at all. The Credit Crisis was a result of banks over extending themselves an becoming insolvent in the process, it couldnt have started anywhere else. It just hit us hardest due to the idiotic policies of FF/PDs fanning the flames of an overheated economy and the biggest property bubble per capita the western world had seen in decades if not ever



    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    The Recession was caused by a cyclical worldwide recession that was triggered by the Credit Crisis of 2008...
    What was that about blaming everything on somebody else?? I think that over riding excuse is well past a cliche
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