EU move to harmonise tax rules

[Glucose]

Fresh EU move to harmonise tax rules - The Irish Times - Thu, Sep 09, 2010

In the event that tax is harmonised throughout the EU, Ireland will haemorrhage jobs in the multi-national sector.

Multi-national's are not here for our wonderful geographic position.

Surely, our political elite in Ireland didn't lie to the Electorate last October when we voted for the second time on the lisbon treaty?

[TommyO'Brien]

Fresh EU move to harmonise tax rules - The Irish Times - Thu, Sep 09, 2010

In the event that tax is harmonised throughout the EU, Ireland will haemorrhage jobs in the multi-national sector.

Multi-national's are not here for our wonderful geographic position.

Surely, our political elite in Ireland didn't lie to the Electorate last October when we voted for the second time on the lisbon treaty?

Not this old shyte again.

1. Certain commissioners are always going to want tax harmonisation and will bang on about it ad nausuam. They bang on about it. Futuretaoiseach bangs on about elites all the time. Destiny's child bangs on about some paranoid conspiracy stuff all the time. Just because someone bangs on about their pet topic all the time doesn't mean it is true or likely to happen.

2. It requires agreement of all. The attitude of over 1/3rd of the countries in the EU is "over our dead bodies". So it can't happen. Do you honestly think that even if we agreed, even if the ten or so others who oppose it also agreed, that Cameron as PM and Hague as Foreign Secretary would agree? Because of they don't then the idea is as dead as a dodo. The only way around the British blockage would be a new treaty, and because that would change the constitutionally approved powers, it would require a constitutional amendment in Ireland, hence a referendum. That ain't gonna happen. And even if the Irish agreed, do you honestly thing a Tory-dominated House of Commons would agree?

So it is a non-story that someone for the craic tries to refloat every so often to see what the response is. The response is the same - one word 'No' in over one-third of the states in the EU.

So it is dead in the water.

[CookieMonster]

Tommy, FG's shortsighted Euro helper money, misses the important bit:

Still, Mr Semeta is prepared to invoke an “enhanced co-operation” procedure under which countries that favour a set of measures can introduce common EU rules to apply only to them. This could put non-participants at a disadvantage.

[ibis]

Tommy, FG's shortsighted Euro helper money, misses the important bit:

We had that argument, too. You can't stop a group of other countries from agreeing a tax treaty between themselves, whether they're in the EU or not. Enhanced cooperation is and was completely irrelevant - both to CCTB, and to Lisbon.

[spotty]

Except of course, that Lisbon introduced the enhanced co-operation provisions in this area.

Nonetheless, Europe will not try to intervene with our taxes. I trust it, and Dick Roche, completely.

[CookieMonster]

Except of course, that Lisbon introduced the enhanced co-operation provisions in this area.

Nonetheless, Europe will not try to intervene with our taxes. I trust it, and Dick Roche, completely.

It would be almost impossible not to...



RTÉ News: Unemployment rate increased to 13%

[FutureTaoiseach]

2. It requires agreement of all. The attitude of over 1/3rd of the countries in the EU is "over our dead bodies". So it can't happen. Do you honestly think that even if we agreed, even if the ten or so others who oppose it also agreed, that Cameron as PM and Hague as Foreign Secretary would agree? Because of they don't then the idea is as dead as a dodo. The only way around the British blockage would be a new treaty, and because that would change the constitutionally approved powers, it would require a constitutional amendment in Ireland, hence a referendum. That ain't gonna happen. And even if the Irish agreed, do you honestly thing a Tory-dominated House of Commons would agree?

The problem is that the EU Commission wants to change the voting-system for 'supervision' of national-budgets so that a Qualified Majority will be required to block - rather than approve - sanctions against a member state.

The European Commission will on 29 September unveil a proposal for the imposition of ‘quasi-automatic' sanctions for delinquents. It is understood that this package of measures would invert the current framework, wherein a qualified majority in the Council must be reached to impose sanctions on countries in breach of the current fiscal rules. Under the commission's plan, sanctions would be imposed automatically and it would require a qualified majority to block their imposition.

Furthermore, the Treaties allow harmonisation between Eurozone countries without non-Eurozone countries having to agree. So the Brits aren't going to save us on this occasion.

[Passer-by]

Except of course, that Lisbon introduced the enhanced co-operation provisions in this area.

It didn't. This has been done to death already.

Nonetheless, Europe will not try to intervene with our taxes. I trust it, and Dick Roche, completely.

I wouldn't worry too much about any EU "threat" to our taxes. Given how bad the state's finances are, it is far more likely we will have to raise our taxes way up towards those at the higher end of the EU scale to balance the books.

[FutureTaoiseach]

It didn't. This has been done to death already.



I wouldn't worry too much about any EU "threat" to our taxes. Given how bad the state's finances are, it is far more likely we will have to raise our taxes way up towards those at the higher end of the EU scale to balance the books.

That wouldn't balance the books, because there would be a capital-flight from the country to avoid taxation, and because higher taxes harm economic growth and increase unemployment, thereby increasing the social-welfare bill and eroding the tax-revenues.

[eoghanacht]

Surely, our political elite in Ireland didn't lie to the Electorate last October when we voted for the second time on the lisbon treaty?

Oh yes, yes they did. Thats why people have the view that they are 'all the same' and rightly so