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    Cassandra Syndrome Cassandra Syndrome is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by petervalhala View Post
    Yes, those who refuse work will no longer receive the dole, those who receive training will have their dole cut 25%
    Yeah those 440,000 people on the live register who refuse to take the total available jobs of 1,000 should be put down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petervalhala View Post
    The only 'clowns' are small minded racists like you.

    Not only do you forget what the Irish themselves have done for the the past 150 years, you also ignore 'foreign' investment.
    Typical pro immigration strawman argument, when the Irish went to the us/Australia they got absolutely nothing handed to them and foreign investment is here for tax breaks and cheap/educated workforce, they would leave in the morning if it suited them but we still have to support all the unemployed foreign workers, again another rubbish left argument.
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    As a citizen of a state(IReland) i give up certain freedoms. I cant just go out and fish for food and hunt wild animals for food or chop down forests for wood for fuel and building. My natural rights get subsumed into the states rights/existence. I wouldnt feel too bad in taking dole as it is just my share of national wealth/income, altough it is a bit high , cut it 40%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer View Post
    The Fianna FAIL mantra. If only it was true.

    Any gombeen understands that any married person on social welfare costs the state on average about 13,000 per annum.

    If this person was in employment they would be contributing income tax, prsi, health levy & income levy. Their employer would also be paying employers PRSI.

    If the total of these taxes, levies etc. was only 2,000 per annum the exchequer would be better off by circa 15,000

    Can anyone then tell me why our most intelligent Fianna Failure, BIFFO has presided this year over a 35% reduction in CAPITAL SPENDING.

    If they were on "budget" we would have thousands more people in employment contributing rather than being a drain in resources.

    I wouldn`t mind but supposedly he was Minister for Finance for 4 years. Or was he asleep? Do solicitors actually know anything about the "real economy"
    Cowen and FF are not in charge of the finances in this country.

    When it comes to the Finances we are not an Independent State.

    The party that hijacked the credit for Irish Independence, have acceeded it to the Germans. We are now using our short supply of tax receipts to recapitalise German Banks that lent to Anglo and Irish Nationwide.
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    Fair point. Can we get back to the thread. Why is capital spending cut 35% when a blind man could see that this capital spending would create jobs, and a multiple of this income will create further jobs.

    €13,000 cost to exchequer for every job lost.

    We really need a few businessmen doing voluntary Government work to explain how the real economy works to Government & DOF officials.

    Not to mention - Travel tax & airport charges
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    Quote Originally Posted by commonman View Post
    we will never get employment until the foreigners to home we should pay them to go
    there were plenty of lazy home grown bastids before the foreigners arrived and there will be plenty after they go.
    some people refuse to work cos they'll lose their benifits.
    i know there are those who cant find work in this economy but you cant blame the hard working foreign types.
    sounds slightly 1940's national socialists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davdvn View Post
    there were plenty of lazy home grown bastids before the foreigners arrived
    Indeed there was - So why on earth did we need to import more ?
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekjgq6DTJeg]YouTube - Strangers in Cork[/ame]

    Hehe, start the vid at 2:40 and see what the Irish say of Irish workers Though no different than lazy Americans here in the States


    Quote Originally Posted by petervalhala View Post
    Foreigners include eBay, LinkedIn, Intel, HP, Apple, Google etc?

    Grow up my little racist troll

    Its the natives who refuse to work that need to be dealt with, not those who came to this country to work and contribute
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigris Celtica View Post
    Indeed there was - So why on earth did we need to import more ?
    We didn't, we 'imported' people to work, directly caused by 150k natives refusing to work

    To claim welfare a person has to be habitually resident in Ireland for two years
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    Yeah those 440,000 people on the live register who refuse to take the total available jobs of 1,000 should be put down.
    Of which 270k claim for the full five days

    There are jobs announcements every few days

    There are approximately 160k training places available free of charge for those who want to work and need upskilling
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