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    Quote Originally Posted by toratoratora View Post
    I thought in these recessionary times we'd have people banging our doors down to get these jobs. We were wrong on that score.
    Having lots of unemployed people is not the same thing as having lot of unemployed people with the particular skills you're looking for.

    Or even the skills that anyone is looking for.

    The problem is that far too many of our unemployed come from the construction, manufacturing and retail industries, with skillsets that are not amenable to easy conversion to the areas in which opportunities lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proposition Joe View Post
    Having lots of unemployed people is not the same thing as having lot of unemployed people with the particular skills you're looking for.

    Or even the skills that anyone is looking for.

    The problem is that far too many of our unemployed come from the construction, manufacturing and retail industries, with skillsets that are not amenable to easy conversion to the areas in which opportunities lie.
    That's very true PJ, and I'm well aware of that. I just thought with the amount of people unemployed in this country that it would be easier to find software developers than it was, say, 3 years ago. But it seems that our industry hasn't been hit as badly as I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proposition Joe View Post
    The problem is that far too many of our unemployed come from the construction, manufacturing and retail industries, with skillsets that are not amenable to easy conversion to the areas in which opportunities lie.
    Worse, our state run training agency is broken and the minister in charge is clueless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toratoratora View Post
    That's very true PJ, and I'm well aware of that. I just thought with the amount of people unemployed in this country that it would be easier to find software developers than it was, say, 3 years ago. But it seems that our industry hasn't been hit as badly as I thought.
    Yeah there seems to be a fair bit of churn (I was made redundant myself recently) but most of those laid off seem to get snapped up relatively quickly.

    Not enough quality supply on the low-experience end of the market either due to the decline in numbers entering third level in the period 2002-2006.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    Care to pm me the name of the good one you use?
    Probably of no use to you I use them for sales people, account managers and from time to time for specialist roles that require a bit of lateral thinking to fill.

    As an example I was hiring a guy to fill a very particular roll and in my head was looking at a lab technician with microbiology experience and then a comprehensive in house training to get them up to speed on the rest of the role. There was allot of direct client facing dealing with very technical people.

    Because of my contact in the agency I ended up hiring a carpenter who wanted out of construction (this is before the bust) He had direct customer facing experience, was very flexible around hours etc when it came to getting a client happy, plus his general attitude and work ethic was outstanding.

    Turned out to be the best hire I ever made. I have promoted him three times since and he still has huge potential to grow. Completely changed the way we looked at our people, how we dealt with clients (not in customer service but who we used to solve issues).


    As others have said its about the relationship you have with the agency or more importantly your contact within the agency. They need to know your business, what you are trying to achieve and even more importantly you and how you view your business.

    I will PM the details, he may not be able to help directly but may point you in the direction of someone who can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    Worse, our state run training agency is broken and the minister in charge is clueless.
    yeah ,FAS are big into stone wall building and plastering but little else

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    I haven't heard of 35% in many years. 15% is the norm and less if in bulk. Full reimbursement if the candidate leaves during the first 3 months, 50% if in following 3 months. Recruitment fees have gone down like all services.

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    [QUOTE=David Cochrane;2533787]Advertise on the FAS job website (that at least is free).
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    So private sector charges 14k and public sector charges nothing.

    Blatant private sector rip-off!

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    [quote=bobbysands81;2550957]
    Quote Originally Posted by David Cochrane View Post
    Advertise on the FAS job website (that at least is free).
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    So private sector charges 14k and public sector charges nothing.

    Blatant private sector rip-off!
    If you had read the thread you would have seen that the vast majority of recruitment agencies do not charge 14K or anything like it.

    Nor do they cost the taxpayer 1 billion a year.

    There is a ripoff allright but not in the direction you were going.....

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