Which of these would be sackable offences in your job?

[patslatt]

Which of these would be sackable offences in your job?

1.Refusal to cooperate with new work practices
2.Refusal to cooperate with staff redeployment
3.Refusal to answer phones
4.Non-cooperation with reform of the public sector
5.Planned strike against seven Dublin hospitals for 48 hours [a strike against an absolutely essential service Ed]
6.Teachers refusing to meet with school inspectors before inspectors' evaluations of schools
7.The Gardai to withdraw the use of personal equipment such as mobile phones, laptops and digital cameras [on which the policing system has come to depend heavily*. Ed]
8.THe Gardai not responding to phone calls when off duty,[ which presumably could deprive the service of emergency backup in the event of riots or major gangland activity. Ed]
9.Social welfare offices closed for a full day
10.Full or half day strikes
11.All-out strike if there are disciplinary actions or docked pay for latter,[so the right to strike on full pay! Ed]
12.Non-cooperation with new work changes to medical primary care teams
13.Refusal to redeploy to other work locations in medical care facilities
14.Refusal to cooperate with hospital health care audits

Source for the above list of 14, Sunday Business Post, "Industrial Unrest: What Actions Unions Are Taking"

In essence,the public sector workers want to sabotage and disrupt the operations of government at no personal cost to themselves in terms of lost wages.


*For decades successive governments have been unbelievably negligent in underfunding or denying Gardai essentials such as a modernised high secure phone system,rudimentary personal computers and even a basic necessity for frontline staff,stab proof vests. Maybe the Garda management's insistence that IT managers must be gardai hasn't helped matters. Now the government will have to rush out and buy laptops,mobiles and cameras,but they should be able to buy cheaply at wholesale in the recession!

[RainyDay]

Maybe the Garda management's insistence that IT managers must be gardai hasn't helped matters.

Completely untrue. I've met several of their IT managers, and all the ones that I've met were civilians. The Chief Admin Officer recruited a couple of years back was a civilian. The Director of ICT Liam Kidd is a civilian.

[toughbutfair]

How is not answering the phone part of a work to rule?

[Hillmanhunter1]

Which of these would be sackable offences in your job?

1.Refusal to cooperate with new work practices
2.Refusal to cooperate with staff redeployment
3.Refusal to answer phones
4.Non-cooperation with reform of the public sector
5.Planned strike against seven Dublin hospitals for 48 hours [a strike against an absolutely essential service Ed]
6.Teachers refusing to meet with school inspectors before inspectors' evaluations of schools
7.The Gardai to withdraw the use of personal equipment such as mobile phones, laptops and digital cameras [on which the policing system has come to depend heavily*. Ed]
8.THe Gardai not responding to phone calls when off duty,[ which presumably could deprive the service of emergency backup in the event of riots or major gangland activity. Ed]
9.Social welfare offices closed for a full day
10.Full or half day strikes
11.All-out strike if there are disciplinary actions or docked pay for latter,[so the right to strike on full pay! Ed]
12.Non-cooperation with new work changes to medical primary care teams
13.Refusal to redeploy to other work locations in medical care facilities
14.Refusal to cooperate with hospital health care audits

Source for the above list of 14, Sunday Business Post, "Industrial Unrest: What Actions Unions Are Taking"

In essence,the public sector workers want to sabotage and disrupt the operations of government at no personal cost to themselves in terms of lost wages.


*For decades successive governments have been unbelievably negligent in underfunding or denying Gardai essentials such as a modernised high secure phone system,rudimentary personal computers and even a basic necessity for frontline staff,stab proof vests. Maybe the Garda management's insistence that IT managers must be gardai hasn't helped matters. Now the government will have to rush out and buy laptops,mobiles and cameras,but they should be able to buy cheaply at wholesale in the recession!

If I were working in a unionised environment, such as a Government department, or a bank, or Guinnesses, or many bars and restaurants, or any of a 1000 other employments none of these would get me sacked because they would come under collective bargaining arrangements. Unions make it difficult to bully individual workers, that's why people pay union subs, its like a form of insurance.

If however I was working for Ryanair, or if I was a Microserf, or worked in a typical small owner-managed company I would probably lose my job.

[toughbutfair]

If I were working in a unionised environment, such as a Government department, or a bank, or Guinnesses, or many bars and restaurants, or any of a 1000 other employments none of these would get me sacked because they would come under collective bargaining arrangements. Unions make it difficult to bully individual workers, that's why people pay union subs, its like a form of insurance.

If however I was working for Ryanair, or if I was a Microserf, or worked in a typical small owner-managed company I would probably lose my job.

I think you have just explained why Aer Lingus is going down the drain and Ryanair making profits. Unions are a cancer on business, no way I'd tolerate one if I was starting up a company.

[TommyO'Brien]

I think you have just explained why Aer Lingus is going down the drain and Ryanair making profits. Unions are a cancer on business, no way I'd tolerate one if I was starting up a company.

Why am I not surprised? The usual far right paranoid nonsense.

[CookieMonster]

Why am I not surprised? The usual far right paranoid nonsense.

why am I not surprised? The usual Tommy O'Brien/NotDevsSon/Insider2007 hyperbole.

[toughbutfair]

Why am I not surprised? The usual far right paranoid nonsense.

so why is Aer Lingus losing a fortune and Ryanair making profits doing the same job?

[neiphin]

I think you have just explained why Aer Lingus is going down the drain and Ryanair making profits. Unions are a cancer on business, no way I'd tolerate one if I was starting up a company.

i thought you were leaving the country 6 months ago

[nuj]

Unions are a cancer on business.

And they developed due to an unhealthy lifestyle by employers, if you care to look at their genesis.