Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: 'Migrant and Agency meat workers exploited'

  1. #1
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    895

    'Migrant and Agency meat workers exploited'

    ...is the headline of a bbc report today. The UK Equality and Human Rights Commission [it doesn't spend all it's time obsessed with the BNP] has found 'widespread evidence' of abuse and exploitation in the meat processing industry.
    www.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8564632.stm
    It found , of 260 workers sampled, over two years:

    1 in 5 had been pushed, kicked, or had things thrown at them by line managers.
    1 in 3 had experienced or witnessed verbal abuse, often daily.

    Many workers who gave evidence to the commission said that agency workers were treated worse than directly employed staff. Also 'one third of permanent workers and two thirds of agency workers were migrants.'
    The director general of the EHRC concluded that audits by supermarkets were not safeguarding workers. [No surprises there. I expect these audits were safeguarding.... the profits of supermarkets.]

    Comment:
    That's them auld Brits; sure St Patrick drove them out. I think that's what the Brudders said. Anyway, what's this got to do with us?

    Meat packing is a significant industry in Ireland. An industry that has had difficulty recruiting, and which competes with those British meat processing sites, which have so few inhibitions about exploiting vulnerable foreign nationals. An industry which has pocketed quite a bit of public money over the years (beef Tribunal) and 'Meanwhile back at the ranch' by Fintan O'Toole.
    Could similar findings be made in Ireland, if anyone looked for them?
    (Please contribute your harrowing personal accounts in english, for comprehensibility.)

    PS. Marina Lewycka's (very entertaining) book 'Two Caravans' is admittedly fiction but contains an horrific account of contemporary work in a chicken farm.
    What value the audits of 'free range' and 'animal friendly' production by these supermarkets?

  2. #2
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    597

    Quote Originally Posted by clonycavanman View Post
    ...is the headline of a bbc report today. The UK Equality and Human Rights Commission [it doesn't spend all it's time obsessed with the BNP] has found 'widespread evidence' of abuse and exploitation in the meat processing industry.
    www.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8564632.stm
    It found , of 260 workers sampled, over two years:

    1 in 5 had been pushed, kicked, or had things thrown at them by line managers.
    1 in 3 had experienced or witnessed verbal abuse, often daily.

    Many workers who gave evidence to the commission said that agency workers were treated worse than directly employed staff. Also 'one third of permanent workers and two thirds of agency workers were migrants.'
    The director general of the EHRC concluded that audits by supermarkets were not safeguarding workers. [No surprises there. I expect these audits were safeguarding.... the profits of supermarkets.]

    Comment:
    That's them auld Brits; sure St Patrick drove them out. I think that's what the Brudders said. Anyway, what's this got to do with us?

    Meat packing is a significant industry in Ireland. An industry that has had difficulty recruiting, and which competes with those British meat processing sites, which have so few inhibitions about exploiting vulnerable foreign nationals. An industry which has pocketed quite a bit of public money over the years (beef Tribunal) and 'Meanwhile back at the ranch' by Fintan O'Toole.
    Could similar findings be made in Ireland, if anyone looked for them?
    (Please contribute your harrowing personal accounts in english, for comprehensibility.)

    PS. Marina Lewycka's (very entertaining) book 'Two Caravans' is admittedly fiction but contains an horrific account of contemporary work in a chicken farm.
    What value the audits of 'free range' and 'animal friendly' production by these supermarkets?
    I know from my experience of the world of work that they're some nice people
    and some complete langers and jerks.I've experienced my fair share of arrogant bosses and tyrannical foremen.Unfortunately in a time of high
    unemployment the bosses have a 'carte blanche' to do what they like.

  3. #3
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    597

    Quote Originally Posted by clonycavanman View Post
    ...is the headline of a bbc report today. The UK Equality and Human Rights Commission [it doesn't spend all it's time obsessed with the BNP] has found 'widespread evidence' of abuse and exploitation in the meat processing industry.
    www.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8564632.stm
    It found , of 260 workers sampled, over two years:

    1 in 5 had been pushed, kicked, or had things thrown at them by line managers.
    1 in 3 had experienced or witnessed verbal abuse, often daily.

    Many workers who gave evidence to the commission said that agency workers were treated worse than directly employed staff. Also 'one third of permanent workers and two thirds of agency workers were migrants.'
    The director general of the EHRC concluded that audits by supermarkets were not safeguarding workers. [No surprises there. I expect these audits were safeguarding.... the profits of supermarkets.]

    Comment:
    That's them auld Brits; sure St Patrick drove them out. I think that's what the Brudders said. Anyway, what's this got to do with us?

    Meat packing is a significant industry in Ireland. An industry that has had difficulty recruiting, and which competes with those British meat processing sites, which have so few inhibitions about exploiting vulnerable foreign nationals. An industry which has pocketed quite a bit of public money over the years (beef Tribunal) and 'Meanwhile back at the ranch' by Fintan O'Toole.
    Could similar findings be made in Ireland, if anyone looked for them?
    (Please contribute your harrowing personal accounts in english, for comprehensibility.)

    PS. Marina Lewycka's (very entertaining) book 'Two Caravans' is admittedly fiction but contains an horrific account of contemporary work in a chicken farm.
    What value the audits of 'free range' and 'animal friendly' production by these supermarkets?
    The trade unions will not do FA,because they've been bought off by the govt and the govt are only lackeys and puppets for the bosses.

  4. #4
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    597

    Quote Originally Posted by clonycavanman View Post
    ...is the headline of a bbc report today. The UK Equality and Human Rights Commission [it doesn't spend all it's time obsessed with the BNP] has found 'widespread evidence' of abuse and exploitation in the meat processing industry.
    www.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8564632.stm
    It found , of 260 workers sampled, over two years:

    1 in 5 had been pushed, kicked, or had things thrown at them by line managers.
    1 in 3 had experienced or witnessed verbal abuse, often daily.

    Many workers who gave evidence to the commission said that agency workers were treated worse than directly employed staff. Also 'one third of permanent workers and two thirds of agency workers were migrants.'
    The director general of the EHRC concluded that audits by supermarkets were not safeguarding workers. [No surprises there. I expect these audits were safeguarding.... the profits of supermarkets.]

    Comment:
    That's them auld Brits; sure St Patrick drove them out. I think that's what the Brudders said. Anyway, what's this got to do with us?

    Meat packing is a significant industry in Ireland. An industry that has had difficulty recruiting, and which competes with those British meat processing sites, which have so few inhibitions about exploiting vulnerable foreign nationals. An industry which has pocketed quite a bit of public money over the years (beef Tribunal) and 'Meanwhile back at the ranch' by Fintan O'Toole.
    Could similar findings be made in Ireland, if anyone looked for them?
    (Please contribute your harrowing personal accounts in english, for comprehensibility.)

    PS. Marina Lewycka's (very entertaining) book 'Two Caravans' is admittedly fiction but contains an horrific account of contemporary work in a chicken farm.
    What value the audits of 'free range' and 'animal friendly' production by these supermarkets?
    On a more positive note.The Turkish workers at GAMA who were exploited by
    their employers by paying them 2 euro an hour.It was only thanks to
    Joe Higgins that the nasty practises at at GAMA were exposed and it was
    Joe Higgins who championed the Turkish workers cause.

    At least Joe Higgins has some scruples unlike most of our me-feiners politicans.

  5. #5
    Politics.ie Newbie
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    68

    Quote Originally Posted by beamish2010 View Post
    On a more positive note.The Turkish workers at GAMA who were exploited by
    their employers by paying them 2 euro an hour.It was only thanks to
    Joe Higgins that the nasty practises at at GAMA were exposed and it was
    Joe Higgins who championed the Turkish workers cause.

    At least Joe Higgins has some scruples unlike most of our me-feiners politicans.
    What was the heckle from Conor Lenihan at the time.? "Go back to your kebab eating mates" or something like that.

    I work in a factory that has gone from being a good decent job for local employment to know being staffed 90% by eastern Europeans.
    The intrest the management now take in the welfare of the employees is now Zero...company motto.. "If YOU dont like it walk ...there is lots more who will take it in the morning"

  6. #6
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    4,837

    ""If YOU dont like it walk ...there is lots more who will take it in the morning" "


    There are several posters on this Forum who would like this type of treatment for all workers. I could find several examples of the above sentiment or variations thereof on the postings of some members. I don't need to name them. You all know them.

  7. #7
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    hills of donegal
    Posts
    3,708

    they weren't forced to come here,as someone posted above,if they don't like it they go back to wherever they came from.new rules folks ,our own come first its not racism, its not xenophobia the time has come to look after our own workers let the migrants countries look after theirs we don't need them anymore

  8. #8
    Politics.ie Member
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    741

    There is a cultural aspect to this story the media is ignoring. Asians thanks to generations of communism have a tendency to be exploitative. The PC media won't report on that though.

  9. #9
    Politics.ie Regular Mitsui2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Between Time and Timbuktu
    Posts
    10,240

    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    they weren't forced to come here,as someone posted above,if they don't like it they go back to wherever they came from.new rules folks ,our own come first its not racism, its not xenophobia the time has come to look after our own workers let the migrants countries look after theirs we don't need them anymore
    Let's see...

    This is
    a) a quote about the Irish from New York in 1860 &c
    b) a quote about the Irish from England in 1960 &c
    c) a quote about the non-Irish from Ireland in 2010

    Don't forget to pull the ladder up after you, charley!

  10. #10
    Politics.ie Regular Mitsui2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Between Time and Timbuktu
    Posts
    10,240

    Quote Originally Posted by Horses View Post
    There is a cultural aspect to this story the media is ignoring. Asians thanks to generations of communism have a tendency to be exploitative. The PC media won't report on that though.
    Those dastardly communists from places like South Korea, Japan and pre-1999 Hong Kong, you mean?

Similar Threads

  1. Are migrant workers leaving Ireland?
    By thejuggler in forum Economy
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 27th April 2009, 01:40 PM
  2. Replies: 15
    Last Post: 6th April 2009, 11:17 AM
  3. Migrant workers do not contribute to the economy: FG Cllr
    By kerrynorth in forum Culture & Community
    Replies: 138
    Last Post: 3rd February 2009, 01:48 PM
  4. EU told to accept 20m migrant workers
    By onthefence in forum Europe
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 13th September 2007, 08:29 PM
  5. Migrant workers can now claim benefits
    By FutureTaoiseach in forum Current Affairs
    Replies: 48
    Last Post: 19th January 2006, 12:22 AM