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Thread: Communism and libertarianism have failed- distributism is our hope for the future

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    Interesting, sounds a bit like anarchism, although it's got a few strange ideas about it. Almanac, you have a George Orwell quote in your sig, have you read Homage To Catalonia? You can read about a hope for the future in it too
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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    Distributism has had rather strange promoters and theorists from day one, and continues to attract them. Support for it tends to come from middle class people frightened of both the ruling class which is in the process of proletarianizing them above and the "mob" below.
    Ad hominem rubbish. Distributism has no one founder. It's a current of thought which has exercised a vast mainstream influence, notably in US anti-trust legislation. It was even partially blamed for the global financial meltdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    I think that you are confusing it with corporativism.

    Also, what do you have against the middle classes? You communists always seem to hold the middle classes in particular distain.
    Marx inserted the toxin of class hatred into western culture. Hatred of the middle classes is just as irrational as glorification of the working classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcadeparade View Post
    Interesting, sounds a bit like anarchism, although it's got a few strange ideas about it. Almanac, you have a George Orwell quote in your sig, have you read Homage To Catalonia? You can read about a hope for the future in it too
    Haven't we already seen it? See the first point in the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    I think that you are confusing it with corporativism.

    Also, what do you have against the middle classes? You communists always seem to hold the middle classes in particular distain.
    Hilaire Belloc was one of the most important theorists and promoters of distributism. Im not confusing the two. Take a look at the links.

    The middle classes are intrinsically individualistic and prone to idealism in a bad way. Read what Wyndham Lewis who was far from being a communist says about them in "The Art of Being Ruled".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    Marx inserted the toxin of class hatred into western culture. Hatred of the middle classes is just as irrational as glorification of the working classes.
    Oh really? Read "The Pursuit of the Millenium" by Norman Cohn and you will realise that class hatred long pre-dates Marx in western culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    I think that you are confusing it with corporativism.

    Also, what do you have against the middle classes? You communists always seem to hold the middle classes in particular distain.
    How long before someone uses the phrase " champagne socialists" do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadjodilo View Post
    Nick Griffin (BNP leader) is allegedly a fan.

    The March to the Far Right - TIME

    So was Mahatma Gandhi.
    Nationalists of all sorts like it because it lets them attack both international finance and international socialism.

    That it was the economic policy of 20th century fascists and Catholic authoritarians is the natural consequence of this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    Hilaire Belloc was one of the most important theorists and promoters of distributism. Im not confusing the two. Take a look at the links.

    The middle classes are intrinsically individualistic and prone to idealism in a bad way. Read what Wyndham Lewis who was far from being a communist says about them in "The Art of Being Ruled".
    Perhaps you would prefer the alternative to distributism. Because this is where we're heading if the middle classes disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    Oh really? Read "The Pursuit of the Millenium" by Norman Cohn and you will realise that class hatred long pre-dates Marx in western culture.
    Not systemically. Marx, with his ideology of hate, is responsible for that.
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