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    The irony of this Your Country Your Call is that even though it is being criticised it is closer to Republican have-your-say ideals than anything we have ever had before. As a social experiment it has shown some promise.

    At last someone is asking the People for their opinion! Wow! Well done folks.

    Please let's not knock the idea.
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    One of the ideas is 'Increase further education and training opportunities for the unemployed including through eLearning'. Conor Lenihan, 'Minister for Science, Technology & Innovation' (Jesus help us), says “The Government is keen to action as many of these ideas as quickly as possible".
    Right you foreskin-headed bullshltter, it would take 1 week to set up an elearning structure and 1 month to put in place materials and people. How long do you think these goons will take?

    The rest is just painful, tired neo-liberal balderdash - the old 1990s Ireland 'brand' schtick, 'Teach business skills as part of all PhD education as a means of promoting the knowledge economy' (Ja, mein MBA Fuhrer) and blue sky political manifesto waffle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foghorn View Post
    Thanks SocialDemcrate!

    BTW, there was a term you used, I believe, that led me to believe it was someone else but I do note others use it too. The term is "Jesus wept". I've never heard it before and had to look it up. I don't understand the context of it, though I didn't especially care for any I could conceive.
    its an expression my mum uses when she is especially exasperated, i'd imagine it comes from the bible - where;s the holy joes on this site when u want one?
    "the view that a natural father who is caring for his children in such circumstances has absolutely no constitutional rights or protection in respect of his relationship with his children, and must accept the few crumbs that fall from the table of statutory protection, is increasingly untenable."

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    Jesus wept (Greek: ἐδάκρυσεν ὁ ἰησοῦς) is a phrase famous for being the shortest verse in the King James Version of the Bible, as well as many other popular versions (though not the shortest in the original languages).[1] It is found in the Gospel of John, chapter 11, verse 35.[2]

    This verse occurs in John's narrative of the death of Lazarus, a friend of Jesus. Lazarus' sisters Mary and Martha sent word to Jesus of their brother's illness and impending death, but Jesus arrived four days after Lazarus died. Jesus, after talking to the grieving sisters and seeing Lazarus' friends weeping, was deeply troubled and moved. After being shown where Lazarus was laid, Jesus wept in front of Lazarus' tomb. He then ordered the people to remove the stone covering the tomb, prayed aloud to his Father, and ordered Lazarus to come out, resurrecting him before the mourners.

    wipekedia is great aint it!
    "the view that a natural father who is caring for his children in such circumstances has absolutely no constitutional rights or protection in respect of his relationship with his children, and must accept the few crumbs that fall from the table of statutory protection, is increasingly untenable."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatsbygirl20 View Post
    This is a "save money" rather than "get the people back to work" idea

    I am often asked where I think savings in the PS should come from, if I am not willing to accept yet another slash to my salary. Eh bien....

    In government Depts (certainly in education) if a budget is allocated (say a grant to a school for some project) and the person handling that budget is thrifty and gets good value for money, and there is some of that money left over, instead of that school etc being rewarded for their thrift and efficiency in saving the taxpayer money, the next year's budget is cut, as a sort of punishment

    For example if the budget allocated is 80,000 and the school/institution brings in the deal at 60,000, thereby saving the Government Dept, and the taxpayer, 20,000, then the next year's budget will be cut by 20,000. So there is no incentive to cut costs. Quite the opposite.

    This seems to be a world wide phenomenon in Government spending. The writer PJ O'Rourke commented on it in America. The Tory MP Alan Clarke, noted in his Diaries how shocked he was when he was junior minister for Employment, and later, Defence, in Westminster, to find that saving money meant being punished with less and less budgetry allocation...You have to find ways of spending the money, or you will get less next time.....

    It is surely a crazy system, and the root of much waste.......
    Post of the year my girl.

    And reason enough to ensure that no one with an accountancy qualification should be let near the civil service.

    It is surely a crazy system, and the root of much waste.....
    and the root of much else besides
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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Nah, we still want the Monorail.
    But only if the Monorail is powered by people

    People energy
    D2213 : Energy & Environment Submitted by: Dereko1985 on 04/03/2010 Status: Under Consideration
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    In recent years there have been numerous talks about creating a way to use wind to store energy. Please forgive my ignorance but I do not know exactly how this works but i presume, turbines are set facing the wind, wind blows and turns turbines and the energy created is stored? If this is in fact the case, is it possible to build a facility whereby people could turn said turbines. Via peddling walking, hand peddling etc? If so, I can't help but think almost everybody is capable of turning some sort of such a device. We currently have how many people unemployed. Would you go to work where you required to peddle a bike and have the energy you created stored. Payment could be on an amount produced amount paid basis, so you didn't have to sweat your behind off all day but work at your own pace. If we wanted to earn more then you would produce more. If we can in fact build such a facility we could this energy and sell it world wide.
    I have an idea.

    How about we let companies hire people to work for free, through FAS work schemes. This will give people experience and allow companies make more money so that they can hire more people to work for free
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    The government knows the simple measures (within its capabilities, not smart economy stuff but obvious stuff) it can do for Ireland to have a chance to prosper in the future and it hasn't done it. It could start by halving the salaries of TDs and senators, reintroducing effective Freedom of Information, shutting down the quangos which do nothing anyway and produce nothing, introducing accountability, responsibility and transparency everywhere and eliminating corporate funding of political parties, cutting the pensions of any politician or civil servant found with his hand in the cookie jar along with a thousand and one similar measures which most people would see as being the right thing to do. They need to cut the bullsh1t and do whats right. We cant expect much smart economy innovations from that shower of idiots but theres still a lot of actions they know they can do but which they continuously fail to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Make people work for their welfare payments.

    Your Country Your Call: View Idea

    This steaming pile of sh1te has 57 days to run.
    It has (some) entertainment value. A lot of people have learnt nothing: hence variants based on the most recent failed ideology, neo-liberalism, or ideas dreamt up by people who should never be allowed outside unsupervised. All ideas are for nought while the traitors of FFail hold office.

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    Put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socialdemocrate View Post
    Jesus wept (Greek: ἐδάκρυσεν ὁ ἰησοῦς) is a phrase famous for being the shortest verse in the King James Version of the Bible, as well as many other popular versions (though not the shortest in the original languages).[1] It is found in the Gospel of John, chapter 11, verse 35.[2]
    I always loved the wrinkle added by Simon Dedalus, Stephen D's da, in Joyce's Ulysses. Faced with some especially obtuse event he'd say "Jesus wept - and no wonder, by Christ!"

    The saying, like many attributed by Joyce to Daddy D, was one of his own ould fella's.

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