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About LinkBacksagree about culture of wellfare , not about africa , not much of a wellfare state in zaireOriginally Posted by toughbutfair
agree about culture of wellfare , not about africa , not much of a wellfare state in zaire
Yes if the money is spent properly then its several generations of people who can be stopped from being a pure burden.
up until now money has been available, but it seems to have been based around the idea of building up self confidence, where in fact their was to much through a distorted view of themselves and society. And of looking to excuse behavior and normalise even condone it, rather than hold a mirror up to the child and educate them as to how pathetic their lives looked to those who new how to belong to society and what they needed to do to change.
Social care workers are to afraid of being truly honest with those that need to hear it and those that need to hear it have no need to listen or fear the consequences of not trying to recognise their faults.
The state through its agencies controls Housing, transport, income, and everything that goes with these of these people. The state should empower its workers with these controls and allow them to impose real demands on the problem families backed by the threat of withdrawal of state supports.
Their is a lot more to it I know, but a lot of these Families need to stop being seen as needing "extra" support and be seen as needing strong prescriptive direction and controll.
Cira/rira Not in my name.
Apologies - I thought your point was that I didn't know the areas and the communities there? I grew up about 1km from one of the areas.
Good post - direction and support into normal working life is much important than spending 3bn on yet more free houses.
It still costs money though, and you have to recognise the effect of enviroment both physical and social on people, you just dont accept it as an excuse and you dont write of the younger generation. You just dont feed in to the Bullsh1t they believe in, and you make them face the fact that they work to change or the props that allow them to exist destructive lives will be removed and their cooperation is not an option.
A lot of these people think they are better than those around them that suffer at their hands, you have to face that down and make them change.
Cira/rira Not in my name.
Move them all to Dublin South.
They wouldnt last a week before they would be howling back down the Naas road at 1000kph, tail between the legs, shouting about unfair competition
Regards, Pat Gill
On a serious point, we have nealry 300,000 empty homes across the country, why build new estates in Limerick when we can relocate, relocate, relocate.
To keep Tom Parlon happy
"Those who would give up their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both" - Benjamin Franklin
That bit of Limerick is isolated from any area of employment. Dispersing them to empty estates surely seems a good idea. Maybe one way tickets to somewhere far away might prove cheaper. How about Detroit, Michigan? That'd put manners on those gougers.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WKMNmFsxM"]YouTube- A Tour Of Detroit's Ghetto[/ame]
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