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    What a ridiculous thread.

    The man that Lee thought he should oust has a MPhil in Economics from Oxford.

    Typical hysteria from Cassandra.

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    George Lee found out the reality of Irish politics and the concept of Neo Feudalism. George Lee is worth 10 Richard Brutons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    [SIZE="4"]There is no place in Irish Politics for an economist ?[/SIZE]

    Richard Bruton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Richard Bruton was born in Dublin, and grew up in Dunboyne, County Meath. He is the son of Joseph and Doris Bruton.[1] He was educated at Belvedere College, Clongowes Wood College, University College Dublin and Nuffield College, Oxford.[3] At Oxford he graduated with a MPhil in Economics[3], his thesis being on the subject of Irish public debt.[1] He is a Research Economist by profession,[4] and after university he worked at the Economic and Social Research Institute.
    Garret FitzGerald - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    FitzGerald was educated at the Jesuit Belvedere College and University College Dublin (UCD), from which he graduated with a B.A. degree in 1946, later returning to complete a Ph.D. which he obtained in 1968. He was deeply interested in the politics of the Spanish Civil War and World War II. A bright student who counted among his contemporaries in UCD his future political rival, Charles Haughey, who also knew Joan O'Farrell (a Liverpool-born daughter of a British army officer, Richard O'Farrell) a fellow student, whom Garret Fitzgerald would go on to marry in 1947.
    Following his university education he found employment with Aer Lingus, the state airline of Ireland, in 1947 and became an authority on the strategic economic planning of transport. During this time he wrote many newspaper articles and was encouraged to write on National Accounts and economics by the Features Editor in The Irish Times. He remained in Aer Lingus until 1959, when after undertaking a study of the economics of Irish Industry in Trinity College, Dublin, he became a lecturer in economics at UCD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    2 economists that were TDs in Irish history? Is that the best you can do? And you call this a stupid thread? Not one minister for finance in the history of Ireland was an economist. Out of the 19,000 civil servants responsible for running the country only 3 have a Phd in economics.

    As I said its one thing being an economist but being an economist that knows it as a social science and as a form of psychology is another thing entirely. Bruton and Fitzgerald fail on this count.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    2 economists that were TDs in Irish history? Is that the best you can do? And you call this a stupid thread? Not one minister for finance in the history of Ireland was an economist. Out of the 19,000 civil servants responsible for running the country only 3 have a Phd in economics.

    As I said its one thing being an economist but being an economist that knows it as a social science and as a form of psychology is another thing entirely. Bruton and Fitzgerald fail on this count.
    Three more economists off the top of my head:
    David Thornley
    Martin O'Donoghue
    Alan Dukes

    And this business of there having no PhDs in Economics in Finance is just an old George Lee line reheated (could that be George hiding as Cassandra?)

    Most economists don't do PhDs - unless they want to stay in academia. Generally they have a Masters Degree (which, incidentally was good enough for George). There are 44 people in the Department of Finance with a Masters Degree in Economics.

    Lee attacks civil servants over lack of economics PhDs - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillmanhunter1 View Post

    There are 44 people in the Department of Finance with a Masters Degree in Economics.
    Really? So why is our budget deficit 18% of GNP for 2009? Not one of them 44 economist saw this depression coming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    Really? So why is our budget deficit 18% of GNP for 2009? Not one of them 44 economist saw this depression coming?
    Good question !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disabled student View Post
    Good question !!!!
    Thanks DS. Did you hear Professor Stiglitz on Pat Kenny this morning criticising these "economists"?
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    Alan Dukes was one too.. was he not?

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    OK, here is a challenge. Provide me a link on this thread of an article, blog, vidoe clip of any "economist" that was a TD at the time that predicted the crash back in 2006 or 2007.

    I don't want some random opposition rumblings about government policy. A concise predictio something like Peter Schiff or Gerald Celente specifically talked about at that time.

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verhofstadt View Post
    Alan Dukes was one too.. was he not?
    Yeah him and Fitzgerald pushed National Debt up to 120% of GNP in 1987. Incidentally did anybody know that Fitzgerald was at FIVE Bilderberg meetings?
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