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    Quote Originally Posted by Murra View Post
    Stop with the compliments Baron, you're unnerving me
    Just lulling you into a feeling of security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gombeennation View Post
    the reason i dont like professional politicians is because PPs are looking for the vote , the whole vote and nothing but the vote.
    ergo they will turn up at 10 funerals a day , they will fool voters into thinking they "got them" the medicard , and they will "sort out" potholes - there means to an end is to get voted in to get power.
    not get voted in to make a change for the better - but simply to get power.
    when someone is motivated solely by getting the vote - they will put their own position ahead of the good of the country.
    The dabblers have to look for the votes too. No votes - no seat - no power -no use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    The dabblers have to look for the votes too. No votes - no seat - no power -no use.
    of course they need votes.
    the professional politician will do anything to get the vote and keep it , coffin chasing , pretending to grieve at auntie lou's funeral etc etc etc - that type of thing.
    a man like GL wouldnt be into that kind of thing.
    he would be looking to get votes on "lets try and put forward some ideas to fix the economy".
    obviously this is impossible in FG unless you are prepare to GoGombeen for a few years.
    GL unwilling to do this , and saw it as a waste of time - he decided to honor his voters by telling the truth and quitting.
    easier thing to do was goGombeen and spout shlt until he qualifies for the pension and the perks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gombeennation View Post
    of course they need votes.
    the professional politician will do anything to get the vote and keep it , coffin chasing , pretending to grieve at auntie lou's funeral etc etc etc - that type of thing.
    a man like GL wouldnt be into that kind of thing.
    he would be looking to get votes on "lets try and put forward some ideas to fix the economy".
    obviously this is impossible in FG unless you are prepare to GoGombeen for a few years.
    GL unwilling to do this , and saw it as a waste of time - he decided to honor his voters by telling the truth and quitting.
    easier thing to do was goGombeen and spout shlt until he qualifies for the pension and the perks.
    A vote is a vote is a vote. In the count centres they don't say 'That No.1 was because of his stance on NAMA and that one was because he went to a funeral and this one is from someone who wants to shag him.

    Lee was just a journalist before he ran for the Dail. Apart from the familiarity gleaned from being on the telly every night what reason had anyone to vote for him?

    It's easy to be all smug and superior about TDs who attend funerals but at least they involve themselves in their communities and listen to their constituents. Give me one of them ahead of a pretty-boy, prima Donna, spoofer who runs away when he can't hack it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    A vote is a vote is a vote. In the count centres they don't say 'That No.1 was because of his stance on NAMA and that one was because he went to a funeral and this one is from someone who wants to shag him.

    Lee was just a journalist before he ran for the Dail. Apart from the familiarity gleaned from being on the telly every night what reason had anyone to vote for him?

    It's easy to be all smug and superior about TDs who attend funerals but at least they involve themselves in their communities and listen to their constituents. Give me one of them ahead of a pretty-boy, prima Donna, spoofer who runs away when he can't hack it.
    Yes I know you cant say for sure why people voted for anyone.
    However in georges case he did put himself forward on the "help with the economy" ticket.
    I thought everyone knew that?

    The point about funerals is that its not really involvement - its going because if you dont - the other fella who did will get the jump on you.
    Thats the system we have - thats why the Dail is populated by teachers/publicans/culchie lawyers and professional coffin chasers.

    Again with the "hack it" - I agree he couldnt hack being part of a charade - He said as much himself!
    You seem to suggest it was too much work or too strenuous for him - IMO it was the opposite - bored shltless being a hostess at commitees.

    Its in the interest of all TDs from ALL parties to perpetuate the myth of "its hard work , george maybe underestimated how difficult it is".
    but its a myth.
    if you are prepared to swallow your pride , suck it up , bend over and participate in the same panto time and time again then you will get some where in irish politics.
    george wasnt prepared to be played like a gombeen and left.
    fair play george fair play.
    its a one in 40 year occurance where someone resigns on a point of principal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gombeennation View Post
    Yes I know you cant say for sure why people voted for anyone.
    However in georges case he did put himself forward on the "help with the economy" ticket.
    I thought everyone knew that?

    The point about funerals is that its not really involvement - its going because if you dont - the other fella who did will get the jump on you.
    Thats the system we have - thats why the Dail is populated by teachers/publicans/culchie lawyers and professional coffin chasers.

    Again with the "hack it" - I agree he couldnt hack being part of a charade - He said as much himself!
    You seem to suggest it was too much work or too strenuous for him - IMO it was the opposite - bored shltless being a hostess at commitees.

    Its in the interest of all TDs from ALL parties to perpetuate the myth of "its hard work , george maybe underestimated how difficult it is".
    but its a myth.
    if you are prepared to swallow your pride , suck it up , bend over and participate in the same panto time and time again then you will get some where in irish politics.
    george wasnt prepared to be played like a gombeen and left.
    fair play george fair play.
    its a one in 40 year occurance where someone resigns on a point of principal.
    What was George's point of principle, the big boys won't play with him so he's going back to his cushy job with RTE which he never really resigned from despite getting another job. Aww Poor Diddums!

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    George Lee wasn't up to the task.... After only eight months in the Dáil, less if you take the summer recess and Christmas Recess into account he has quit. He is like the guy at the bar who knows everything about whats wrong with the country and has all the answers to put it right..... There be no new party for George, he's going back to his cosy semi state job at RTE where he can make more money at the taxpayers expense and complain about the Government. So farewell George "The Cry Baby" Lee and good riddance....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gombeennation View Post
    Thats the system we have - thats why the Dail is populated by teachers/publicans/culchie lawyers and professional coffin chasers.
    You'd prefer journalists, economists and jackeen lawyers?

    Quote Originally Posted by gombeennation View Post
    its a one in 40 year occurance where someone resigns on a point of principal.
    Principle me arse. Lee flounced because his ego is to big for the curragh let alone a political party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kalahan View Post
    No he was not foolish he was honest
    +1
    'THEY WENT BECAUSE THEIR OPEN EYES COULD SEE NO OTHER WAY' Cecil Day-Lewis' epitaph to the British & Irish men and women of the International Brigades, Spanish Civil War.

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    If RTE managed to survive for the last 8/9 months without George Lee, then why should they have to now increase their running costs by €150,000 p.a. just to hire George again?

    This doesn't make any sense?

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