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    Quote Originally Posted by Murra View Post
    One might assume (in hindsight,incorrectly) that he ran for election as a TD, to represent those who voted for him. Ok, his expertise might be in economics, but there is more to being a TD than one single issue. Today the concern is with the country's finances, tomorrow it will be Health, the day after Education and so forth. What does George Lee know about these things, or indeed the potholes on the roads or the rezonings that have caused misery to peoples lives, or the ineptitudes in the social services which affect the homeless or immigrant children. You might call this 'parish pump' politics, but these are real issues, for real people. A 'Career Politician' knows (or should know) how things work from the ground up. George Lee is of feck all use to those who elected him now, isn't he?

    At least he has the comfort of the €15k Goodbye money, and his €150k job with RTE to cushion his fall.
    Excellent points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    Excellent points.
    Stop with the compliments Baron, you're unnerving me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    This always baffles me. If I'm sick I want a career doctor not the medical correspondent of a newspaper to treat me. Is politics the only profession where those who chose it as a career are deemed to be inferior to dabblers?
    the reason i dont like professional politicians is because PPs are looking for the vote , the whole vote and nothing but the vote.
    ergo they will turn up at 10 funerals a day , they will fool voters into thinking they "got them" the medicard , and they will "sort out" potholes - there means to an end is to get voted in to get power.
    not get voted in to make a change for the better - but simply to get power.
    when someone is motivated solely by getting the vote - they will put their own position ahead of the good of the country.

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    Originally Posted by Murra
    "But there is more to being a TD than one single issue."

    Not in this case - GL was primarily on the ticket of "im going in to help with the economy"

    Originally Posted by Murra
    "George Lee is of feck all use to those who elected him now, isn't he?"

    Well of course - he has resigned!
    If they want , they can vote in a timeserving/funeral going/medicard sorting gombeen drone.
    Dont worry in ireland we dont have a shortage of them.


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    Excellent points.
    really??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limerick Lad View Post
    George Lee keeps claiming he has the answers to Ireland's current economic difficulties
    Really?
    I thought he was just in this TD charade to try and help with economic policy.
    I dont remember him claiming to know everything and have all the solutions.
    Feel free to post a link which proves me wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gombeennation View Post
    Really?
    I thought he was just in this TD charade to try and help with economic policy.
    I dont remember him claiming to know everything and have all the solutions.
    Feel free to post a link which proves me wrong though.
    George Lee: How I would fix the economy - National News, Frontpage - Herald.ie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisco View Post
    Forget this well-intentioned but doomed to failure Amhrán Nua.

    What Ireland needs is a National Reform and Recovery Movement, An Páirtí Leasaitheach, to stand on a two plank platform: a coherent economic plan for national recovery, and fundamental reform of the political and constitutional system.

    It should have no other policies, and will wind itself up when its agenda has been achieved. Its support of any government is dependent on a radical reform agenda being carried out.

    This is the only way it will happen: turkeys will not vote for Christmas, and TDs will not reform the system in a manner that harms their own petty interests, however well-intentioned they may be.

    What we need is an anti-politics party; one that clearly says that we are being elected to implement A, B, and C, and if that is done by the next election we will have served our purpose and cease to exist.

    A party that will attract people, like George Lee, who want to do something, achieve something in politics (not just getting into power) and then get out.

    A party whose raison d'etre is its own demise.

    Reckon this is spot on and could carry the day. When are you having the first meeting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisco View Post

    What Ireland needs is a National Reform and Recovery Movement, An Páirtí Leasaitheach, to stand on a two plank platform
    So if George Lee is the first plank, who's the second?

    Will you ever get lost with this 'What Ireland needs....' rubbish.

    If people were queuing up to vote for airy-fairy candidates whose only interest is theoretical constitutional reform such a party would have been created yonks ago.

    You should go out canvassing some time, and see then how you feel about creating your Every So Nice and Cuddly Party.
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    ehhh thats a list of what proposals he had in mind.
    of course he had ideas on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gombeennation View Post
    Originally Posted by Murra
    "But there is more to being a TD than one single issue."

    Not in this case - GL was primarily on the ticket of "im going in to help with the economy"

    Originally Posted by Murra
    "George Lee is of feck all use to those who elected him now, isn't he?"

    Well of course - he has resigned!
    If they want , they can vote in a timeserving/funeral going/medicard sorting gombeen drone.
    Dont worry in ireland we dont have a shortage of them.


    really??

    Really.

    Being a legislator is about dealing with all the issues. Lee was a one trick pony. He wanted to be a technician but have the power of a CEO.

    It's a simple statement of fact to say that he's no use to the 27k voters who trusted him to represent them. He never was.

    Lee wasn't a time server he was a time waster.

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