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    Quote Originally Posted by Malbekh View Post
    Good put down! Sorry, but there's family involved here*, and in those circumstances I just see red....

    *on an altruistic, non-paying basis.
    That's fair enough, your comments did come out of left field. But still, you're justification of this spend (I will resist calling it a massive overspend) are akin to political spin and I'm afraid to say that I don't buy it at all. Just sayin' is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfReason View Post
    How does the answer to that question prevent FF appointing whoever they want to the post of Irish Ambassador to Canada - an Ex-taoiseach perhaps?
    The answer is "none" - if your going to make a fool of yourself throwing around allegations will you have the good sense to wait until they commit the foull deed. Not so much a case of my being asleep as you, perhaps, needing some sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalywise View Post
    But the role that ambassadors play in attracting FDI is minimal - they don't like to get their hands dirty. They leave it to the IDA who they look down on as "public servants". An occasional knees up in the embassy might be provided but the IDA does the job. And you do not require a house twice the size of the PM's to impress people.

    And in Canada, as in many well run countries like Sweden, Norway etc, extravagence is looked on carefully. If the Canadian media reports posted here are getting wide circulation in Canada, then this project has done more harm than good to FDI prospects from Canada.
    Good points. Image is everything. This story will damage Ireland's FDI prospects in Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    The answer is "none" - if your going to make a fool of yourself throwing around allegations will you have the good sense to wait until they commit the foull deed. Not so much a case of my being asleep as you, perhaps, needing some sleep
    Yeah giving FF the benefit of the doubt has already destroyed the economy so why start been judgmental now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MollyMaguire View Post
    Good points. Image is everything. This story will damage Ireland's FDI prospects in Canada.
    Frankly it looks ridiculous that a country on the economic brink is spending... outspending even the host nation's own Prime Minister for a new home for it's ambassador. Even if we were still economic high-flyers it wouldn't make sense, but now it's embarrassing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfReason View Post
    Yeah giving FF the benefit of the doubt has already destroyed the economy so why start been judgmental now.
    How is economic mismanagement evidence that they are planning to make an ambassadorial appointment from outside the ranks of the career diplomatic corps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    That's fair enough, your comments did come out of left field. But still, you're justification of this spend (I will resist calling it a massive overspend) are akin to political spin and I'm afraid to say that I don't buy it at all. Just sayin' is all.
    No, you're entitled to your point of view. There is potential overspend here, no doubt about it, and possibly down to interference from the 'residents'. Nonetheless, my source informs me it has a very strong potential to be money well spent, as it has had the right impact on the right people.

    Quite often I've been corrected on this website because I was making assumptions or stating facts that turned out to be incorrect. In such circumstances I've always been prepared to take such corrections with good grace.

    I knew about this 4 weeks ago, it wasn't something to make an issue of because said publicity would only damage the embassy and the purpose for the massive spend.

    Now thanks to FG, it may be money down the drain. This is what is known as 'the big picture'
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    Another problem with all of this is that next week we'll have Fitzgerald's column in the IT telling us what a great job the Dept Foreign Affairs does, their role in our modernisation, non-political, etc etc. ....zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    Just as Whelan does when FF take a hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    How is economic mismanagement evidence that they are planning to make an ambassadorial appointment from outside the ranks of the career diplomatic corps?
    It was not 'economic mismanagement' it was criminal corruption. You still not have acknowledged that there is no legal barrier to stop the government from appointing someone "from outside the ranks of the career diplomatic corps".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalywise View Post
    The top of the civil servcie is now effectively political. FF decided they had enough of uppity independent civil servants when they tried to move Sean Donlon out of DC many years ago and he screwed them by getting Irish politicos on Capitol Hill to kick up.

    Most General Secretaries and Asssistant Secreatries are now party lads (not members) but "nod and wink" party supporters. Like the top brass in RTE. Trend took off after 97 but was already obvious before that.
    And your proof of this is what ?

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