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Thread: half of Poles have returned home from Britain 'not true', says Polish expert

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    mmmm, sexy Polish ladies with no sense of humour and bad clothes.....<drools>
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    I would say a lot of Poles and other EU citizens will leave Ireland as soon as they have the right to work freely in the other member states. That will be in 2012, if I'm not mistaken? I don't think there are so many of them in Ireland and Britian because it's such a wonderful place with so many job opportunities - it's the only place they can go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interista View Post
    I would say a lot of Poles and other EU citizens will leave Ireland as soon as they have the right to work freely in the other member states. That will be in 2012, if I'm not mistaken? I don't think there are so many of them in Ireland and Britian because it's such a wonderful place with so many job opportunities - it's the only place they can go.
    I was asking my Polish sis-in-law recently about Poles returning home/moving on in the context of the recession. She made the point, which we often forget, that many of them - particularly the first wave of immigrants - have settled, married, set up home here, had kids and they do not want to disrupt family life by upping stakes and moving on again. As far as they are concerned Ireland is home and they're staying. Of course, many of them are highly educated and are now working in well-paid positions - they're not all the migrant labourers that some would like to imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interista View Post
    I would say a lot of Poles and other EU citizens will leave Ireland as soon as they have the right to work freely in the other member states. That will be in 2012, if I'm not mistaken? I don't think there are so many of them in Ireland and Britian because it's such a wonderful place with so many job opportunities - it's the only place they can go.
    They have free the right to work in all member states, bar Germany and Austria. If they havent left by now, the majority of them will remain in Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son_Of_The_Republic View Post
    I wonder if the same situation exists for Ireland:


    Claims that half of Polish migrants in the UK are heading home are untrue, according to a leading expert from Poland.

    A recent report claimed that around 700,000 of the estimated 1.5million eastern European migrants who have come to the UK since 2004 are still here.
    And a report by the Institute for Public Policy Research in 2008 claimed that more than half of the Polish migrants who had arrived in the UK havesince returned home.

    But an expert on Polish migration today claimed that there was no sign of them coming back to Poland.

    Read more: Claims that half of Polish immigrants are returning home 'not true' | Mail Online
    There's a bigger picture here too. The Poles are being forced to emigrate due to limited welfare which in turn makes Poland bereft of its people creating the pretext of introducing even cheaper foreign labour into Poland. The globalisation of Labour is all part of the NWO agenda too.

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    Good article on the Poles staying on in Ireland.

    Staying on in a 'small paradise' - The Irish Times - Sat, Jan 09, 2010

    “The Romanians who arrived most recently are where the Polish people were six years ago,” says Mariusz. They have no bargaining power and are undercutting other migrant workers, he alleges, accepting rates well below the minimum wage, in a classic race to the bottom. “I have no problem with them, I really don’t. That’s how we were just a few years ago. But if they arrive right now, what are they going to do? Poland is Manhattan for Romanians. What do you think Ireland is to them ?”

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    I was asking my Polish sis-in-law recently about Poles returning home/moving on in the context of the recession. She made the point, which we often forget, that many of them - particularly the first wave of immigrants - have settled, married, set up home here, had kids and they do not want to disrupt family life by upping stakes and moving on again.
    Yes, I'm sure those people would stay here unless something major happens. But how many of the Poles in Ireland are in that position? I had the impression that most of them were young, unmarried people, but of course I could be very wrong.

    They have free the right to work in all member states, bar Germany and Austria. If
    Really? I thought that wasn't until 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son_Of_The_Republic View Post
    I wonder if the same situation exists for Ireland:


    Claims that half of Polish migrants in the UK are heading home are untrue, according to a leading expert from Poland.

    A recent report claimed that around 700,000 of the estimated 1.5million eastern European migrants who have come to the UK since 2004 are still here.
    And a report by the Institute for Public Policy Research in 2008 claimed that more than half of the Polish migrants who had arrived in the UK havesince returned home.

    But an expert on Polish migration today claimed that there was no sign of them coming back to Poland.

    Read more: Claims that half of Polish immigrants are returning home 'not true' | Mail Online
    They havn't gone away you know....

    I think anyone in Dublin who does not inhabit one of the more plusher (usually Southside) areas of this City and County could tell you for free there has been no siginificant drop in numbers.

    But I would say its probably true that the proportion of Immigrants still arriving (circa 100,000 in 2009) that are from Poland and the other NAS has dropped.



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    Does anyone else find it hard to recognise the 'paradise' of Ireland described in the article linked to above?

    Where children are taught that they can acheive anything? Where the legal system works for the benefit of the individual? Where the country 'gives everything for its people'?

    All I can say is, if this is a paradise, Poland must really be hell on earth.

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