Time for Biological father to pay the bill

[Foghorn]

And again this is backed up by Kieran McKeown Social and Economic Resarch Consultant. See [COLOR=#008000][COLOR=#800080]www.amen.ie/Downloads/26017.pdf[/COLOR].[/COLOR]

It contradicts your position, as assets the interpretation that I have taken all along on these issue.

Specifically it shows that an unmarried father, as I repeatedly showed in the definitions of the Guardianship of Infants Act, is not entitled to be recognised as a father under the law -

The legal barriers to lone fathers are already [COLOR=red]well known[/COLOR] and arise both in the Constitution and in law. The main barrier in the Constitution is that [COLOR=red]an unmarried father is not part of a family within the legal meaning of Article 41 of the Constitution nor is he a parent within the meaning of Article 42 of the Constitution; as a result, [/COLOR][COLOR=red]he has no personal right to his child which the State is bound to protect under Article 40.3.[/COLOR]

[hopi watcher]

And again this is backed up by Kieran McKeown Social and Economic Resarch Consultant. See [COLOR=#008000][COLOR=#800080]www.amen.ie/Downloads/26017.pdf[/COLOR].[/COLOR]

It contradicts your position, as assets the interpretation that I have taken all along on these issue.

Specifically it shows that an unmarried father, as I repeatedly showed in the definitions of the Guardianship of Infants Act, is not entitled to be recognised as a father under the law -

It is absolutely bonkers for you or anyone else to claim that a court in Ireland would refuse a father access to his child for any reason other than such access would not be in the best interests of the child. Once again you are misinterpreting the links that you are citing.
If what you say is correct, how do the many thousands of unmarried fathers seek and get issued access orders?

Q19: What rights does an unmarried father have regarding his child.
A19: An unmarried father can be appointed guardian of his child if the child's mother consents. The parents can in these circumstances agree between them the arrangements for custody and access. Otherwise he may apply to the Court:
(a) to become guardian of the child jointly with the mother. To do so he must prove he is the father of the child.
(b) for custody of the child.
(c) for access to the child.

[Foghorn]

It is absolutely bonkers for you or anyone else to claim that a court in Ireland would refuse a father access to his child for any reason other than such access would not be in the best interests of the child. Once again you are misinterpreting the links that you are citing.
If what you say is correct, how do the many thousands of unmarried fathers seek and get issued access orders?

Q19: What rights does an unmarried father have regarding his child.
A19: An unmarried father can be appointed guardian of his child [COLOR=Red]if the child's mother consents[/COLOR]. The parents can in these circumstances agree between them the arrangements for custody and access. Otherwise [COLOR=Red]he may apply[/COLOR] to the Court:
(a) to become guardian of the child jointly with the mother. To do so he must prove he is the father of the child.
(b) for custody of the child.
(c) for access to the child.

It may be bonkers................but it is the Law.............the Constitution.................and the Reality. I never said I agreed with it!

You have persistently sought to ignore every reference to this matter when it suited your cause.

Do you understand the meaning of the word evidence?

[hopi watcher]

It may be bonkers................but it is the Law.............the Constitution.................and the Reality. I never said I agreed with it!

You have persistently sought to ignore every reference to this matter when it suited your cause.

Do you understand the meaning of the word evidence?

Explain to us how thousands of unmarried fathers are issued with access orders contrary tio the wishes of the mother.
From where does the court get the authority to issue such orders?
What has 'evidence' to do with it?

[Foghorn]

It is absolutely [COLOR=Red]bonkers for you or anyone else to claim that a court in Ireland would refuse a father access to his child for any reason other than such access would not be in the best interests of the child[/COLOR]. Once again you are misinterpreting the links that you are citing.
If what you say is correct, how do the many thousands of unmarried fathers seek and get issued access orders?

Q19: What rights does an unmarried father have regarding his child.
A19: An unmarried father can be appointed guardian of his child if the child's mother consents. The parents can in these circumstances agree between them the arrangements for custody and access. Otherwise he may apply to the Court:
(a) to become guardian of the child jointly with the mother. To do so he must prove he is the father of the child.
(b) for custody of the child.
(c) for access to the child.

BTW, that's not an argument I am making. My argument is well established .............and you know it...............now grow up and act your age.

No more strawmen!

[hopi watcher]

BTW, that's not an argument I am making. My argument is well established .............and you know it...............now grow up and act your age.

No more strawmen!

As I said I am not arguing with you, merely pointing out that a mother cannot deny a father access to his child.

[Foghorn]

As I said I am not arguing with you, merely pointing out that a mother cannot deny a father access to his child.

A married father "yes" you are correct................an unmarried father "no" you are completely wrong.

[hopi watcher]

A married father "yes" you are correct................an unmarried father "no" you are completely wrong.

Wrong, the courts have issued thousands of access orders to unmarried fathers against the wishes of the mother. How? What instrument was the court using to issue such orders?

[Foghorn]

Wrong, the courts have issued thousands of access orders to unmarried fathers against the wishes of the mother. How? What instrument was the court using to issue such orders?

Source?

[hopi watcher]

Source?

The courts!!!! Are you now seriously suggesting that a court will refuse to issue an access order to a father because he is not married to the mother???? How many times a day do you make a fool of yourself? Do you set a target when you get up each morning????