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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    They don't get the 10% bonus anymore

    Furthermore there wasn't that much of a discrepancy with senior civil servant pay:



    After the pension levy and loss of opportunity for bonus- further cuts wouldn't have been fair. As is I think the upper echelons of the Civil Service are under paid... how can a Secretary General earn half of what a banking CEO earns ?

    We need higher pay, real performance bonuses , more competition and more outside hirings in the CS

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    a) They don't deserve bonuses
    b) They get paid too much as it is
    c) If we're all taking a cut, so should they
    d) Its ridiculous to compare private and public salaries. Private sector jobs will go if they are not competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ang View Post
    In the Sarah Carey article which He3 has linked above, she reminds herself of Naomi Klein's theory of "Shock Doctrine". She argues that when a nation is in shock over a reaction to a disaster, policies to which we'd object in calmer days are slipped through.

    This must not be allowed to happen. It is imperative, that when so much time and energy are spent in the preparation and delivery of the Budget, that it is allowed to follow through as is. Any discrepencies must be found during the formulation process and not after the event. Either somebody didn't do their job properly,or favouritism is the order of the day.

    In the present economic crisis we have room for neither.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murra View Post
    a) They don't deserve bonuses
    b) They get paid too much as it is
    c) If we're all taking a cut, so should they
    d) Its ridiculous to compare private and public salaries. Private sector jobs will go if they are not competitive.
    Sneaking out the u turn on Christmas Eve suggests they are not confident of their ground.

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    I haven't been around for a while as my connection was down for about two months but I heard about this today and I was absolutely disgusted. As a clerical officer in the civil service and been on the top point of the Clerical Officer scale, I know that these pay cuts had to come and it has made things a lot worse for our household but I realise that we all have to take a fair share of this and was willing to go along with this.

    I can remember when we were in the "so called boom times" and pay agreements were been made two or three times a year (I agree that this is pure ridiculous) the unions made an issue about the fact that the pay increases were on a percentage basis but, worse, that the higher grades got even higher percentage rates than we did.

    I'm just so angry now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaranpride View Post
    I haven't been around for a while as my connection was down for about two months but I heard about this today and I was absolutely disgusted. As a clerical officer in the civil service and been on the top point of the Clerical Officer scale, I know that these pay cuts had to come and it has made things a lot worse for our household but I realise that we all have to take a fair share of this and was willing to go along with this.

    I can remember when we were in the "so called boom times" and pay agreements were been made two or three times a year (I agree that this is pure ridiculous) the unions made an issue about the fact that the pay increases were on a percentage basis but, worse, that the higher grades got even higher percentage rates than we did.

    I'm just so angry now.
    It is disgusting.

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    Being discussed on Newstalk now - 1:25pm - with Sarah Carey
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    Share the pain, we are all in this together. FFrauds.

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    All these rises were just an aside to make Mr Sterling Deposit the highest paid !!

    Because he caused the Celtic Tiger and he deserved to be rewarded. It was all his idea !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsAnneThrope View Post
    Being discussed on Newstalk now - 1:25pm - with Sarah Carey


    Who will be first in RTE to report on this cynical doublecross?

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    Quote Originally Posted by He3 View Post
    Who will be first in RTE to report on this cynical doublecross?
    It wont be reported on RTE. Its prob the fillet given to the senior gardai to keep away from the doors of the bankers also.

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