A Christmas Present for Senior Civil Servants

[hammer]

How does it happen

Because the Dept of Finance are incompetent.

[Fun with Irish]

They don't get the 10% bonus anymore

Furthermore there wasn't that much of a discrepancy with senior civil servant pay: After the pension levy and loss of opportunity for bonus- further cuts wouldn't have been fair. As is I think the upper echelons of the Civil Service are under paid... how can a Secretary General earn half of what a banking CEO earns ?
We need higher pay, real performance bonuses , more competition and more outside hirings in the CS

cYp

I think that to make this case you really have to look at the qualifications and performance of the top one thousand public servants in question. I mean, really look at the actual people and at their actual performance. Look at how their promotions were decided during the last 25 years. Can you reasonably claim that these boys and girls have given us value for their salaries over that period of time? Is the country well managed? I am sure that as individuals they are as intelligent and and decent as any other sample of the population but their performance as the senior exective team of the nation is worse than poor. And it does add insult to injury that they maintain their comfortable positions while the rest of us are paying so dearly for their failures.

[He3]

Aren't you glad the government did right by the high level CS people now sitting in conclave at the Emergency Co-ordinating Committee.

If they were not there we would be rightly stuck.

[myksav]

We have gone from 160 to 600 in the space. What are the odds we will hit 1,000 by the end of the week

Wow, at this rate all those cuts will be negated within three months. Hurray!!

[He3]

Wow, at this rate all those cuts will be negated within three months. Hurray!!

The logic is impeccable yet strangely unconvincing.

[myksav]

The logic is impeccable yet strangely unconvincing.

Quite like much of the development of this budgetary end result.

[McDave]

Just before Christmas, Lenihan reduced pay cuts for 200 senior civil servants effectively on the basis that the cessation of a bonus scheme earlier in the year was a cut in itself. However, as Pat Leahy reports, the bonus scheme was intended as a reward system, not the salary top-up it actually became. It should never have been considered as actual pay, and hence not part of the pay cuts affecting the senior civil servants (Lenihan toned down pay cuts for top civil servants | The Post). Yet Lenihan treated it as such and gave special treatment to yet another small privileged group.

To me this is further evidence of a government inherently incapable of applying even the most simple of objective criteria when faced with special pleading. Either Lenihan is up to his brief or he is not. On this evidence (and contrary to the obsequious plaudits he has been receiving since Christmas) I don't see him as at all fitted to the most responsible position in Irish government. I think it's time for Lenihan and the government as a whole to go.

[hammer]

Lenny appears to be making tough descions due to the negligency of Mr Sterling Deposit, Mr Incompetent Biffo and Mr I`ll spend it if I have it !!!

People seem to forgive him for being in this difficult position as he is a fairly decent skin.

But the number of row backs & bad decisions is beginning to tarnish the public perception

1. TD`s pensions
2. Doubling the Levies
3. Judiciary salaries
4. Higher paid public servants
5. Hammering the lower paid public servants
6. Cutting payments to the blind
7. Blanket guarantee for Banks
8. Bailing out Anglo
9. Bailing out Anglo again
10. Bailing out INBS the private BS of Fingers
11. Not pushing fingers for the €1 million bonus to be repaid
12. Letting AIB appoint a current director as CEO
13. Letting BOI appoint Boucher
14. Not reading the f.................report on Anglo ( as if people are that stupid to believe this )
15. Pushing through NAMA
16. Increasing VAT at just the wrong time resulting in huge outflow of retail spending


He has made a lot of mistakes. He will not go down in history as a competent Finance Minister.

[stonethrower]

I am sure the senior mandarins closest to the Minister made a very strong case that a large cut in pay would decimate the senior ranks, destroy morale, etc etc, etc....and I am sure that they thought it would have been slipped through without anyone noticing.....

Just reminds me of this episode of Yes Prime Minister

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JObTDctaZOc&feature=related"]YouTube- Yes Prime Minister - S01E05 - A Real Partnership - Part 2[/ame]

[timetochange]

I wrote emails to TD's this is one reply I received from one green Party member who sounds more FF than Green incidentally she has claimed the highest amount in expenses in the whole of the green party!


We worked hard to make sure there was fairness in the budget. The situation described in the article is something of an anomaly and was not an attempt to lessen the fairness of the implementation of the pay cut for public servants. [COLOR="Red"]Their situation was unusual because of the way their income had been calculated. [/COLOR]Deputy secretaries will still have been subjected to a 14% cut and assistant secretaries to a 11.8% cut (including pension levy) because of the various Government measures over the past twelve months.

HMMM seems very fair to me