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About LinkBacksJesus, Pyrrhic victory, Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus, cutting ones nose off to spite ones face, has any of these terms any meaning for you?Originally Posted by bormotello
Jesus, Pyrrhic victory, Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus, cutting ones nose off to spite ones face, has any of these terms any meaning for you?
Voters don't decide issues, they decide who will decide issues.
George Will
While I think the PS is in need of radical reform, TOP down (not bottom up), the above comments are bordering on the hysterical. The PS are not some foreign body imposed on us; they are us. They are an integral part of the weave of Irish society. Simply slashing and burning them will achieve no lasting good. Sensible, thought out, non-knee-jerk reform is need.
"We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep." - The Tempest, Act 4, Scene 1
+1
Voters don't decide issues, they decide who will decide issues.
George Will
And with current cuts, we'll still have highest deficit in EUEvery other country on the planet is doing just that.
Ireland as usual is somehow to be treated differently.
The route Ireland is taking will ensure our economy is trapped in spiralling deflationary recession for years.
The problem of course is that when it becomes apparrant to all but the most blinkered slash and burn manics it will be too late, the economy will be destroyed, unemployment will be rampant and this country could quite possibly destabilise.
so we're borrowing more than everyone else already, and you propose we should borrow even more.
I don't agree with perspective from selfemployedmar and bormotello, but think we have no option but to reduce spending.
Not more hysterical then arguments of PS union leaders and some posters here about keeping salaries in public sector untouched on everybody else expense
Every country has the government it deserves.
Joseph De Maistre
"Jealousy Levies."
Good phrase. I like it.
"Well, while I'm here, I'll do the work - and what's the work? To ease the pain of living. Everything else, drunken dumbshow." - Allen Ginsberg Memory Gardens
That's one way to look at it. But spending the cash you have in hand in Ireland in the hopes that it will lift the economy in any way is about as reasonable as saying a prayer and hoping for the same effect.
"Well, while I'm here, I'll do the work - and what's the work? To ease the pain of living. Everything else, drunken dumbshow." - Allen Ginsberg Memory Gardens
Originally Posted by Glow in the dark
Coming from a household where we are almost €1000 pm down because of jealousy levies, and now facing further pay cuts - what can I say to this news..........
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .......oh dear me, excuse me while I go and wrap all the Christmas presents I just bought on eBay and Amazon for one tenth of the price of buying them in town, and I didn't even have to pay petrol or parking costs.
Now where can I get my groceries on line at NI prices??????????
1/10th of the price. Post the websites quick and we`ll all save a few bob. Or were you exaggerating a little.
Maybe you can join the PS in Northern Ireland if the private sector taxes keep falling !!!
Another point, is that the so called "jealousy levy" relates to the pension levy (which is the only levy that is ps related only). So lets say, average reduction in pre tax pay was 7%, so if this houshold was hit by 1000 euro pm, then that makes a total houshold income of around about 14k per month!!Originally Posted by Glow in the dark
Coming from a household where we are almost €1000 pm down because of jealousy levies, and now facing further pay cuts - what can I say to this news..........
unless of course Glow was trying to confuse matters and his/her total reduction is 1000 including income levies etc which all have sufferred but he/she chose to mislead us by pretending they were simply ps related "jealousy levies"
Either way it comes across quite poor of him/her, but perhaps he/she could clarify whther the in come was 14k per month or perhaps they could like to revise their figures ?
Are 14k a month household incomes the type that labour and the unions are trying to protect ?
Last edited by wexfordman; 16th November 2009 at 04:06 PM.
Progressive and fair taxation = 2012 Merc e250 elegance purchase price/value 47,910 Road Tax:- 156 2005 vw passat 1.9L diesel price/value 8000, Road Tax :- 582
Good point WexfordMan.
I`d say they`ve got the income levies & health levies also.
Do PS workers pay Health Levies.
If you were recruited before 2008
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