Dublin South East

[Minister3]

My reply is simple
1st count
Andrews 26
O Callaghan 22
Keegan 20 : :mrgreen:
White 19
White transferred 5 each to Andrews and Keegan and 9 to O Callaghan .Keegan went out then and transferred 20 to Andrews and 5 to OCallaghan.It ended 51 Andrews 31 O Callaghan.
White did the damage to O Callaghan what was interesting was that when the papers were being checked that the bulk of O Callaghans 2's were going White.
On Count 3 Andrews had a 21 vote lead over O Callaghan.even if Keegan had polled ahead of O Callaghan by one or 2 he'd still have been beaten by him -Whites transfers
Adios p.ie apologies to dave we're not going to annoy you any more.
Andrews /O Callaghan it will be.

[brenners']

Will Keegan think about going independent?

[hiker]

Jim84 There were three reasons why i did not attend the PD Meeting last night:

1) I was minding my own children,
2) I was doing a Radion Interview ( by phone ) on 98FM
and 3) The Plan re the Port is so ill thought out that following the defeat of Tom Morrissey at the General Election it will be buried.

The good burghers of Dublin North will be thrilled that you have decided, in your infinate wisdom, to save them from having to make that decision.

[BarryW]

A strange decision.... Andrews' big margin of victory must also be a surprise.

O' Callaghan should be added now - Keegan can probably kiss it goodbye at this stage.

This is NOT the strongest ticket FF could put out, and they will be in grave danger of losing the seat (presuming that Eoin Ryan is out of the way for good)

Both Andrews and Callaghan are proven electoral losers. Up against wily campaigners and proven votegetters like Creighton, Gormely McDowell and the Quinns - how in God's name can FF HQ expect them to survive?

(Oh and by the way, commiserations to everyone's favourite Senator, Columbia Three-hugger and Gerry Adams' best pal - Mary White)

[Dee Four]

3) The Plan re the Port is so ill thought out that following the defeat of Tom Morrissey at the General Election it will be buried.

Care to tell us why? Dublin Port cannot go on as it is. Do you wish to put forward an alternative?

I was at the meeting. A number of local concerns were raised but the people seemed largely in support of moving Dublin Port to Bremore. It was the same stuff as every local politician hears; the incinerator, the treatment place, those bloody geese...

It was great to see McD slap down my local Green rep. He was nice to Humphreys, though mainly because he stood up to say what a great job we were doing.

[BarryW]

Care to tell us why? Dublin Port cannot go on as it is. Do you wish to put forward an alternative?

Here's one reason: It makes the Port Tunnel - one of the largest infrastructural projects in Dublin's history - COMPLETELY USELESS.

Cullen and Callely haven't even opent the blasted thing to traffic, and already the PDs want to close it down

[Dee Four]

Ah yes, I meant to get back to you on that.

The Port Tunnel will not be made useless. It just won't be taking much trucks. The people who will be living and working in the area will need to get around, y'know. It seems to me to be an essential part of the overall master plan.

What will be needed is an orbital route starting at Bremore that will keep the trucks out of Dublin city altogether. Except for the ones that need to come into Dublin to do business, of course.

The current situation is unacceptable. The Port needs to be moved. I'm not prepared to restict our imports and exports just so we can fill a tunnel full of trucks.

By the way, The Village magazine supports this proposal. The only ones who don't are IBEC. Now there's one for the books.

[cllr]

Couple of points DeeFour:

The case to develop a substantial new Port should have and could have been made prior to the development of the Port Tunnel. In my view there is a need to reduce the impact of heavy Port activity in the area and a comprehensive audit of the land use in the area.

A "Picture Bite" as someone described the PD Policy is nosubstitute for a comprehensive plan.


Secondly given the attempted watering down of the Planning laws during the PD's participation in Government I would be extremely worried at the implication of their involvement in the redevelopment of the overall area. The methods operated by the DDDA through its Masterplan has shown the way forward.

There is a case for a second Port at Brenmore - not as an alternative Port but a supplementary one.

As Cathaoirleach of the Dublin Regional Authority I have just established a Dublin Bay Forum and I hope that the PD's will input to this and that responsible Government action might arise from this.

As for my comment re Senator Morrissey above I have not seen one disinterested single prediction that he will win a seat in Dublin North.

Perhaps the new PD's interest in the Port has more to do with FF winning the battle on the Incinerator leaving egg on Michael Mc Dowells face and Tom Morrissey needing to do something for Dublin North - seems a fair assumption to me!

[Smashey]

Prediction -

1. McDowell
2. Quinn
3. Creighton
4. Gormley

Han't chnaged seriously the dogs in the street could've told you it'd be Andrews/O'Callaghan for the last few months!

[cllr]

Prediction -

1. McDowell
2. Quinn
3. Creighton
4. Gormley

Han't chnaged seriously the dogs in the street could've told you it'd be Andrews/O'Callaghan for the last few months!

I agree