Clondalkin Electoral Area 2009?

[True Blue]

I live close to this electoral area but not in it. I would be interested if people feel that Fine Gael can take two seats in this constituency following the demise of the PDs.

My initial prediction:

Fianna Fail 1 seat
Fine Gael 1 or 2 seats (depending on PD votes being carried to FG)
Labour 1 or 2 seats (depending on Socialist Worker performance)
Sinn Fein 1 seat
Socialist Worker 1 seat

[SEANSOUTH]

I live close to this electoral area but not in it. I would be interested if people feel that Fine Gael can take two seats in this constituency following the demise of the PDs.

My initial prediction:

Fianna Fail 1 seat
Fine Gael 1 or 2 seats (depending on PD votes being carried to FG)
Labour 1 or 2 seats (depending on Socialist Worker performance)
Sinn Fein 1 seat
Socialist Worker 1 seat

2 seats for FF ( Jim Daly & another).
1 FG.
1 Lab
1 SF.
Last seat between Green, PD & Gino Kelly

[....isainmdom]

I live close to this electoral area but not in it. I would be interested if people feel that Fine Gael can take two seats in this constituency following the demise of the PDs.

My initial prediction:

Fianna Fail 1 seat
Fine Gael 1 or 2 seats (depending on PD votes being carried to FG)
Labour 1 or 2 seats (depending on Socialist Worker performance)
Sinn Fein 1 seat
Socialist Worker 1 seat

I'm interested as to why you would consider FF to only get one seat, surely they would have a Clondalkin(hopefully not Gilligan) seat and Daly would sweep up the rest around Rathcoole, Saggart and Newcastle.???

[seamasdefaoite]

With the ward now having six seats theres a greater chance now that the two largest partys in the area will each pick up an extra seat, that is Fianna Fail and Labour. Robert Dowds and Mags McCarthy are Labours candidates. Mags is from North Clondlakin and as a result should be targeting the gino kenny vote and the SF vote. the sitting SF councillor isn't running so unless SF get a reasonably well known local to run or Joanne Spain, they'll find it very difficult to hold that seat. The PD seat is gone. Mary Harneys % at the last election was down nearly 8% and an 8% swing solely in Clondalkin will put the PDs behind even gino kenny.Therese Ridge will hold her seat should she run. Trevor Gilligan is an excellent councillor however he is likely to be shafted by the curran machine, who will more than likely back FF's second candidate.

Fianna Fail: 2 (+1)
Labour Party: 2 (+1)
Fine Gael: 1 (-)
Sinn Fein: 1 (-)
PD's: 0 (-1)

[....isainmdom]

With the ward now having six seats theres a greater chance now that the two largest partys in the area will each pick up an extra seat, that is Fianna Fail and Labour. Robert Dowds and Mags McCarthy are Labours candidates. Mags is from North Clondlakin and as a result should be targeting the gino kenny vote and the SF vote. the sitting SF councillor isn't running so unless SF get a reasonably well known local to run or Joanne Spain, they'll find it very difficult to hold that seat. The PD seat is gone. Mary Harneys % at the last election was down nearly 8% and an 8% swing solely in Clondalkin will put the PDs behind even gino kenny.Therese Ridge will hold her seat should she run. Trevor Gilligan is an excellent councillor however he is likely to be shafted by the curran machine, who will more than likely back FF's second candidate.

Fianna Fail: 2 (+1)
Labour Party: 2 (+1)
Fine Gael: 1 (-)
Sinn Fein: 1 (-)
PD's: 0 (-1)

Completely untrue, Cllr Shane O'Connor has every intention of running in 2009 pending the democratic processes of the convention - which I'm sure he will win. It amazes me the lies some posters on this site come out with as fact when they know absolutely nothing about what they are talking about - possibly an attempt at stoop spin doctoring. Stick to predicting the re-emergence of the stoops in the six Séamus

[seamasdefaoite]

With the ward now having six seats theres a greater chance now that the two largest partys in the area will each pick up an extra seat, that is Fianna Fail and Labour. Robert Dowds and Mags McCarthy are Labours candidates. Mags is from North Clondlakin and as a result should be targeting the gino kenny vote and the SF vote. the sitting SF councillor isn't running so unless SF get a reasonably well known local to run or Joanne Spain, they'll find it very difficult to hold that seat. The PD seat is gone. Mary Harneys % at the last election was down nearly 8% and an 8% swing solely in Clondalkin will put the PDs behind even gino kenny.Therese Ridge will hold her seat should she run. Trevor Gilligan is an excellent councillor however he is likely to be shafted by the curran machine, who will more than likely back FF's second candidate.

Fianna Fail: 2 (+1)
Labour Party: 2 (+1)
Fine Gael: 1 (-)
Sinn Fein: 1 (-)
PD's: 0 (-1)

Completely untrue, Cllr Shane O'Connor has every intention of running in 2009 pending the democratic processes of the convention - which I'm sure he will win. It amazes me the lies some posters on this site come out with as fact when they know absolutely nothing about what they are talking about - possibly an attempt at stoop spin doctoring. Stick to predicting the re-emergence of the stoops in the six Séamus

eh Shane told me and several other people including all sitting councillors in Clondalkin that he has no intention of running again. I genuinely like him, despite the fact he's a Shinner and I would have thought that he would have been an excellent councillor had he decided to run again, and that he would have done a much better job as a TD compared to some of our current Dáil Deputies.

[drjimryan]

jim daly's seat is safe.........his vote is loyal and parochial......

trevor gilligan is a nice guy and does his best...problem is curran wants somebody else.........any takers on his sister running?...capable, competent..a genuine nice person who's run his clondalkin office for the last 6 years?......

[SEANSOUTH]

jim daly's seat is safe.........his vote is loyal and parochial......

trevor gilligan is a nice guy and does his best...problem is curran wants somebody else.........any takers on his sister running?...capable, competent..a genuine nice person who's run his clondalkin office for the last 6 years?......

Spot on.

[drjimryan]

yep....must agree sean...it makes perfect sense for curran and she'll make a great councillor too....plus with a place at the cabinet looming....hell need someone close to run the constituency.....

[jayblue]

the only way John will make it to the cabinet will when he brings in a second sit, so that will bear some influence on the FF candiates in the local elections, based on age Trevor is still quiet young, I would said even young enough that if he got elected to the Dail, he would be no threat to John Curran for atleast 10 years, Ijust do not see a junior minister ever been appointed under the age of 40 yet. With Rathcoole, Saggart coming back into the clondalkin/newcastle ward it will be interesting to see where these votes go to, as there use to be a strong pd vote up there. I am quite amazed at everyone's assumption that the pd voter's will flock to FG. As someone who use to be involved with the pd's for years, I would have voted for labour/greens befoe FG or FF. The pd voters will be up for grabs, if the pds are not running in next years locals, and that is so far away we cannot spectulate if they will be there or not. Now to throw the other equation into the hand, if Mary H bows out of national politics next year, then it would be intersting to see who takes the seat, at tis stage I would have to say it would be between the person who should be the Labour TD Robert Dowds, or the FG candidate Frances Fitzgerald/Derek Keating.