Gaeltacht Quarter for Dublin city

[Riadach]

I'd personally rather see a young persons radio station- a 2FM i nGaeilge- and statutory naming committees at council level to name new residential developments before the setting up of new gaeltachtaí. The issue is third on my list.

Naming committees will do next to nothing to promote the Irish language.

[gaelach]

I'd personally rather see a young persons radio station- a 2FM i nGaeilge- and statutory naming committees at council level to name new residential developments before the setting up of new gaeltachtaí. The issue is third on my list.

Seriously, have you mush for brains?

[Darren Mac an Phríora]

1) Naming committees would ensure that the OLA is implemented so that developments are at least named bilingually.

2) Councils have a general if unofficial policy of encouraging the Irish language where possible.

I wouldn't say that overnight there would be a load of developments named in Irish with new naming committees but some would. Some if better that the situation in Dublin, Wicklow and a couple of other counties where <1% of new developments are named in Irish.

[Riadach]

1) Naming committees would ensure that the OLA is implemented so that developments are at least named bilingually.

2) Councils have a general if unofficial policy of encouraging the Irish language where possible.

I wouldn't say that overnight there would be a load of developments named in Irish with new naming committees but some would. Some if better that the situation in Dublin, Wicklow and a couple of other counties where <1% of new developments are named in Irish.

Pure tokenism then?

[Darren Mac an Phríora]

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I want to see naming committees in operation in every council in the country to

1) ensure that all new residential names are related to their areas.

2) increase/encourage the use of Irish names for new developments.

Naming committees are only in operation in a couple of counties nationally but they are having a great effect. Developments are being given names that relate to their areas and the Irish language is becoming a lot more visible. Galway City Council and Shannon Town Council have naming committees and policies that all developments are named in Irish. Donegal County Council and Letterkenny Town Council have no policies to name all of their names in Irish but loads of them are. There are three committees in Fingal and all new developments are named bilingually and anois agus arís i nGaeilge amháin.

[Riadach]

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I want to see naming committees in operation in every council in the country to

1) ensure that all new residential names are related to their areas.

2) increase/encourage the use of Irish names for new developments.

Naming committees are only in operation in a couple of counties nationally but they are having a great effect. Developments are being given names that relate to their areas and the Irish language is becoming a lot more visible. Galway City Council and Shannon Town Council have naming committees and policies that all developments are named in Irish. Donegal County Council and Letterkenny Town Council have no policies to name all of their names in Irish but loads of them are. There are three committees in Fingal and all new developments are named bilingually and anois agus arís i nGaeilge amháin.

It should hardly take precedence of reestablishment of Irish areas in the east? Surely that increases visibility more.

[Darren Mac an Phríora]

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I want to see naming committees in operation in every council in the country to

1) ensure that all new residential names are related to their areas.

2) increase/encourage the use of Irish names for new developments.

Naming committees are only in operation in a couple of counties nationally but they are having a great effect. Developments are being given names that relate to their areas and the Irish language is becoming a lot more visible. Galway City Council and Shannon Town Council have naming committees and policies that all developments are named in Irish. Donegal County Council and Letterkenny Town Council have no policies to name all of their names in Irish but loads of them are. There are three committees in Fingal and all new developments are named bilingually and anois agus arís i nGaeilge amháin.

It should hardly take precedence of reestablishment of Irish areas in the east? Surely that increases visibility more.

I'd say only a couple of thousand of people would decide to live in new gaeltachtaí in the east. I want to see new gaeltachtaí alright, but I want our residential developments nationally to have names that are related to their areas and not some Englishey or American alien names.

[Riadach]

[quote=Darren Mac an Phríora]

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I want to see naming committees in operation in every council in the country to

1) ensure that all new residential names are related to their areas.

2) increase/encourage the use of Irish names for new developments.

Naming committees are only in operation in a couple of counties nationally but they are having a great effect. Developments are being given names that relate to their areas and the Irish language is becoming a lot more visible. Galway City Council and Shannon Town Council have naming committees and policies that all developments are named in Irish. Donegal County Council and Letterkenny Town Council have no policies to name all of their names in Irish but loads of them are. There are three committees in Fingal and all new developments are named bilingually and anois agus arís i nGaeilge amháin.

It should hardly take precedence of reestablishment of Irish areas in the east? Surely that increases visibility more.

I'd say only a couple of thousand of people would decide to live in new gaeltachtaí in the east. I want to see new gaeltachtaí alright, but I want our residential developments nationally to have names that are related to their areas and not some Englishey or American alien names.[/quote:3odk7cd2]

Perhaps so, but it would make Irish much more visible and audible, they would also provide a handy catchment area for those Gaeltacht dwellers who decide to emigrate. One has to admit that emigration had been one of the greatest causes of decline of Irish with the Gaeltacht area. I still fail to see why you'd give one precedence over the other.

[Darren Mac an Phríora]

Because new gaeltachtaí are only going to be small pockets. When I say that statutory naming committees are second on my agenda (without sounding pretentious) and new gaeltachtaí are third I am thinking logically. What is to stop new gaeltacht estates and apartment blocks in Dublin being given alien English names if naming committees are not in operation?

[Riadach]

Because new gaeltachtaí are only going to be small pockets. When I say that statutory naming committees are second on my agenda (without sounding pretentious) and new gaeltachtaí are third I am thinking logically. What is to stop new gaeltacht estates and apartment blocks in Dublin being given alien English names if naming committees are not in operation?

It's not something that I think is in any way essential to the survival or the promotion of the Irish language. For someone who frequently complains about how unreasonable the Irish language lobby is, you seem to have seized upon an irrelevant issue.