Loyal Tour of Dublin

[fontenoy]

He was the 'Glorious Benefactor', as one of the Deans of the college put it to me. It was under his reign that the foundation of Maynooth was permitted and supported by the British government.

Maynooth served the interests of both the British and the RCC in that it meant that trainee priests were no longer being radicalized in revolutionary France, but instead were being 'formed' in the conservative atmosphere of Maynooth.

But had it anything to do with him, it was Grattans parliment that passed the Act allowing the college. The mad King was against emancipation, seems odd to be toasting him just because he was king at the time it happened.

[Cato]

But had it anything to do with him, it was Grattans parliment that passed the Act allowing the college. The mad King was against emancipation, seems odd to be toasting him just because he was king at the time it happened.

Still, they toast him for it.

[junius]

If its anything like Dublin bus's Ghost tour of Dublin which leaves O'Connell Street every night, then God help you! A dismal and expensive farce indeed in a stinking old bus! God help our tourists and the odd Irish fool (like ourselves) who decides to see what its about!

Dublin Sightseeing GhostBus Tour

[fontenoy]

Still, they toast him for it.

Well kind of explains the National Stockholm Syndrome I reckon our nation suffers from. Soon we'll be toasting the Bondholders for delivering us into austerity.

[de valera's' giddy goat]

wonder does this loyal tour take in copperface jacks, rumour has it, it was once a watering hole for queen victoria as she was going back to her royal yacht at kingstown (dun laoghaire to us unloyal plebs), she got her hole from a ucd arts student from manorhamilton, and kept in regular carrier pigeon contact with the said stud

[Schomberg]

Great idea!! I'm have to make a booking

[Schomberg]

The Defenders of the Republic over at IR.net seem to be planning protests against this tour. Interesting....

[Panopticon]

Technically it's not a "loyal" tour if it's about glorifying a foreign monarch in Dublin, but verging on the "treasonous"...

[JohnD66]

Dublin unionist history is kinda strange.

In the late 18th century, the Dublin Protestant working class were generally 'Patriots' -ie they supported Grattan and more independence for Ireland on economic grounds.

In the 19th century, they became virulent unionists, to the point of contemplating civil war if Daniel O'Connell's campaign for Repeal of the Union was successful. Today in Irish History, October 8, 1843, The Repeal Meeting at Clontarf is Banned | The Irish Story

In the era of Home Rule they were less militant but there were still riots in the inner city in the 1880s between Protestant unionists and Catholic Rulers. JSTOR: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie

By 1916 there were 92,000 Protestants in Dublin, most of whom were unionists but there was virtually no militant unionism and certainly no equivilent of the Ulster Volunteers. Padraig YEates talks about this in his new book Book Review: A City in Wartime, Dublin 1914-18 | The Irish Story

They basically passively accepted Irish independence in 1922. There was some effort to keep the imperial idea alive at things like Remembrance Day and so forth in the 1920s and 30s but never a threat to the state.

Lots of contradictions here. Someone should really do a full study of Dublin unionism and what happened to it.

[Schomberg]

Did the tour last weekend and it was first class - highly recommendable. There was about 50 others on the tour and everyone loved it.Great to hear history of Dublin from our perspective for a change...