Immigration is a huge issue in this Election

[Catalpa]

Immigration is a huge issue in this Election

Not Catalpa's words but Dr Leo Varadkar in his latest leaflet just dropped in the door this morning.

The four page handout is devoted exclusively to the Issue of immigration.

The headline reads:

IMMIGRATION
A Common Sense Approach
How Fine Gael will do things differently.

Overall pretty good I must say.

I especially like the bit that reads:

Integration not Multi Culturalism

Post more later today as I am going out soon.

But once again my predictions have turned out correct - that eventually politicians would make Immigration control an issue at election time.

He has my Vote anyway!

[kerrynorth]

He has my Vote anyway!

I would not be so quick to commit your vote Catalpa. These statements can also mean a mass immigration lamb dressed up as integration mutton! If you are in favour of integration it still implies that you are in favour of mass immigration. Please hold off on any commitments Catalpa, it has the look of a con job to me!

[dub006]

Integration and multiculturalism are faith based policies .

The mass of empirical evidence available is that neither works.
Also the more ethnicities who immigrate the greater the social fragmentation in society,so its not just and issue of numbers.

For instance Taoiseach Ahern stated proudly there were now over 060 different nationalities in Ireland.
Research by Robert Putnam detailed in his boook 'Bowling Alone' which the Taoiseach said he read proved the point of social fragmentation as above.

The key point is thouugh that the irissh people were never asked did they want this level of immigration ,neither were they asked did they want multiculturalism,integration or interculturalism.
All thhese things are being imposed on us .

That why it will never work and why we need a new political movement here along the lines of France's Jean marie Le Pen.Otherwise the other parties here will ignore the issue.In other countries the main parties only dealt with immigration when so called 'Far right 'Parties became an electoral threat to them.

[Twin Towers]

All thhese things are being imposed on us .

That why it will never work and why we need a new political movement here along the lines of France's Jean marie Le Pen.Otherwise the other parties here will ignore the issue.In other countries the main parties only dealt with immigration when so called 'Far right 'Parties became an electoral threat to them.

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[kerrynorth]

All thhese things are being imposed on us .

That why it will never work and why we need a new political movement here along the lines of France's Jean marie Le Pen.Otherwise the other parties here will ignore the issue.In other countries the main parties only dealt with immigration when so called 'Far right 'Parties became an electoral threat to them.

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I attempted to do just some time before. I even went as far as contacting the Registrar of the Dail on the requirement to set up such a party. In fairness I did get a number of PMs in support, however, not nearly enough for 1 person to get the ball rolling. It will take an organisation like the ICP to do this but they show no inclination to do so. The impact of such a party will I think force the mainstream parties off their PC perch and take a tough line. If that were to be the only impact then it would be a result and woth the effort. I am more than willing to any part in such a venture but you will have to organise a number of people and approach the ICP!

[gnash1970]

All thhese things are being imposed on us .

That why it will never work and why we need a new political movement here along the lines of France's Jean marie Le Pen.Otherwise the other parties here will ignore the issue.In other countries the main parties only dealt with immigration when so called 'Far right 'Parties became an electoral threat to them.

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I attempted to do just some time before. I even went as far as contacting the Registrar of the Dail on the requirement to set up such a party. In fairness I did get a number of PMs in support, however, not nearly enough for 1 person to get the ball rolling. It will take an organisation like the ICP to do this but they show no inclination to do so. The impact of such a party will I think force the mainstream parties off their PC perch and take a tough line. If that were to be the only impact then it would be a result and woth the effort. I am more than willing to any part in such a venture but you will have to organise a number of people and approach the ICP!

So would the organisation that you're thinking of be a single issue party or would there be a broader agenda as well?

[kerrynorth]

All thhese things are being imposed on us .

That why it will never work and why we need a new political movement here along the lines of France's Jean marie Le Pen.Otherwise the other parties here will ignore the issue.In other countries the main parties only dealt with immigration when so called 'Far right 'Parties became an electoral threat to them.

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I attempted to do just some time before. I even went as far as contacting the Registrar of the Dail on the requirement to set up such a party. In fairness I did get a number of PMs in support, however, not nearly enough for 1 person to get the ball rolling. It will take an organisation like the ICP to do this but they show no inclination to do so. The impact of such a party will I think force the mainstream parties off their PC perch and take a tough line. If that were to be the only impact then it would be a result and woth the effort. I am more than willing to any part in such a venture but you will have to organise a number of people and approach the ICP!

So would the organisation that you're thinking of be a single issue party or would there be a broader agenda as well?

Well it actually would be a PP rather than an 'organisation'. Although it would identified in the public mind with immigration and associated issues such as crime etc and this is its raison dete it will not be single issue. Much in the same way as you associate the Greens and SF with the environment and NI but they are not single issue parties by any stretch.

[gnash1970]

Well it actually would be a PP rather than an 'organisation'. Although it would identified in the public mind with immigration and associated issues such as crime etc and this is its raison dete it will not be single issue. Much in the same way as you associate the Greens and SF with the environment and NI but they are not single issue parties by any stretch.

Associated issues such as crime? Can you explain what you mean by that? And forgive me but I'm not quite clear what the party's raision d'etre would be from what you've said. Immigration and crime would be key obviously. But in terms of collecting revenue, social welfare, health etc. do you have a guiding philosophy for all of these things?

[kerrynorth]

Associated issues such as crime? Can you explain what you mean by that? And forgive me but I'm not quite clear what the party's raision d'etre would be from what you've said. Immigration and crime would be key obviously. But in terms of collecting revenue, social welfare, health etc. do you have a guiding philosophy for all of these things?

Well as Pat Mc Donagh of Supermacs pointed out 45% of the Court list in Galway are cases involving non-nationals and I am sure there is a not dissimilair picture nationwide.

On other policies I am just 1 person and could set out what policy agenda an entire party may collectively decide to persue. I of course would have my own opinions, but I am just 1 person!

[jayblue]

Well of course you are going to vote for Leo Capatla, now that your other hero Tom Morrissey has venture of to Dublin North. Is it not a bit reach of FG on trying to control immigtation on one hand and then lobbying on the other hand for the illegal Irish over in the US. I am more afraid that these immigtation stance are more to do with having a go at our new multiculturism, or in otherwords having ago at Refugee and Asylum Seekers. I look forweard to his leaflet been delivered, I need something for the cat litter tray