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Because we (not I) voted for them.
But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"
It is also happening in Cork city and county.
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It's not a coup, it's industrial action, a "work to rule" is one of the oldest forms of industrial action... and it is one of the few strings remaining on the trade unionists bow.
It's not pretty and causes inconvenience.. but isn't that the point, to put pressure on the employer?
As the Greens are Fianna Fail are the defacto employer (they make the decisions in the end) then attempting to hurt them more than others is a pretty straight forward tactic.
Less of the hyperbolé from our FF councillors and a bit more honest graft cleaning their Aegaen stables of the developers muck would be a lot more fruitful.
We havent voted for FG either, and since there is and will be no major policy difference in how Fine Gael will spread the pain and distribute the wealth, from FF. The public sector are dead right to treat them accordingly.
Perhaps its a mature wake-up sign that more and more people are begining to cop on and recognise the similarities with the two tweedle dom tweedle dee tory parties.
Well Murph, they should have realised that before casting their ballots.
I cant get over the lack of respect and regard for democracy by some people on this forum.
Bast***s wont miss a chance to clamp you though
Certainly they should do as they're paid to do and if not they should be sacked. In the private sector you wouldn't get away with this so you shouldn't be allowed to in the public. SIPTU's boycott makes no sense seeing as they'll most likely be negotiating with FG after the next general so they're being foolish in the way that they're not hedging their bets.
Now, as for the coup stage, he's right.This is an attempt to hinder the mechanics of the state and as a result of this these people should be fired.
When officials refuse to cooperate with politicians it often comes to a stand off with each party reaching for a weapon, be that industrial action or dismissals. In this case I would advocate dismissals from the government's side as I have neither the time nor the patience for unions who are waging a venomous war against the state when it needs co-operation from all sides.
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
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The Equal Status Acts mirror earlier employment legislation by prohibiting discrimination in the provision of services on nine grounds.
Political belief or opinion or party membership is not one of those nine grounds.
http://www.ucc.ie/en/lawsite/researc...e,37526,en.pdf
That said, a quick google search shows Irish trades unions make all sorts of noises about how they would never, ever, ever discriminate on the grounds of political belief...
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To most sensible people, a "coup" involves a bit more than "an attempt to hinder the mechanics of the state".
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Edward Luttwak's definition, as interpreted by both myself and Cllr McAulliffe says that a coup is not limited to forceful action.
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
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