Hats off to Dublin City Councillors

[codology]

Because the name of the street next to it has a name that is already known Kylemore. People know where that is. Coill Mór is not already there. Kylemore is. I know that area

I don't think the intention is to change existing adresses but if a new appartment block was to be built in the area Coill Mór would be a very suitable name for it.

[Joeyjoejoe]

I have after finding out more about yesterdays meeting. SF and FF voted for the policy, Labour were 50/50 and FG bar two were against it. If I was a councillor last night I would have voted for it also. However being a general (and not die-in-the wool) FG supporter I am going to support the general party on this. The language movement in Dublin is frankly not strong enough for a decent case to be made in favour of this policy. I agree with the spirit of it but there are too many problems with the way Irish is promoted and there are too many people with undealt with psychological scars about learning Irish in school for this policy to be generally supported. It is too divisive. I am staying out of it. When I was in Gael-Taca a few years ago I made a presentation along with Pádraig Ó Cuanacháin (he did the verbal presentation) to a committee in the city after this sites Dermot Lacey put down a motion on behalf of us (seemingly without having thought of it I believe). However that was nearly four years ago and I haven't been in Gael-Taca in three years. I have got onto two councillors- one in Fingal and one in Kildare- and they are putting down motions for future developments to have equal status between both languages with equal prominence to both on the entrance pillars. If this policy was in place in every council then maybe in 20 years helped by the affect of Irish being so visible having them all in Irish as policy would be generally acceptable. Now though it isn't.

I am staying out of it, again.

You gave a presentation with Gael Taca to Dublin City Council a few years ago calling for the measure, you welcomed it when it was voted through but then a few days later you changed your mind and are now against it. The only thing that has changed in the meantime is that you found out some Fine Gael councillors (why is is always a Fine Gael councillor opposing measures on the Irish language?) spoke against the change.
Utterly utterly bizarre.

Also on what basis do you say there will not be support for the measure in Dublin???

According the research done by Micheál Mac Gréil 87% of Irish born people in Dublin (and 89.2% of people raised in Dublin) support the preservation of the Irish language. The other 13% are just very vocal and have been given the run of the media.

http://www.pobail.ie/ie/Preaseisiuinti/file,9802,ie.pdf

BTW still waiting on an answer about the 'sanctimonious' Gaelscoileanna.

http://www.politics.ie/education-sci...leanna-20.html

[Panopticon]

You know what we need more of?

No, it's not local responsibility about development or service provision. Philistine.

It's the State telling people to give their homes names in a tiny minority language, of course.

[dunno]

Locally estates were generally named after mostly now demolished big houses, or some long Anglicised townland name. Irish has not been spoken in these parts, anywhere in Dublin, in some centuries. The imposition of some cod as gaeilge name will just annoy. Maybe a fair few people in Dublin pretend to speak Irish in answer to surveys, but it's just that. There are at least three way of pronouncing and speaking (eg Conas ata tu, cen chaoi ina bhfuil tu/goide mar ta tu for how are you?, fadas seem problematic in this browser) a language that has barely 50,000 genuine speakers. It's not something I'm profoundly opposed to, but in much of south Dublin, but if an existing or demolished big house is the only history in a given place, the gaelic name will either not be authentic for ignoring it, or a horrible translation. There are really more important things to worry about when GNP has slipped 1.5% in the latest reports.

[The OD]

Well done? A bunch of overpaid, useless clowns voted on a pointless measure and you congratulate them?

Its what they are paid to do, nothing more. Should I get a applause for turning up to work too?

Stupid thread. Stupid subject. Typical of P.ie these days.