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    I am very cynical. I lived in Amsterdam in the late seventies. They had a yellow bike scheme. You just jumped on a yellow bike if you saw one available.

    They were all stolen in a few months. It won't work. We have no respect for our city, less so than Amsterdam which is clean and well maintained.

    Dublin is dirty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert151410 View Post
    I am very cynical. I lived in Amsterdam in the late seventies. They had a yellow bike scheme. You just jumped on a yellow bike if you saw one available.

    They were all stolen in a few months. It won't work. We have no respect for our city, less so than Amsterdam which is clean and well maintained.

    Dublin is dirty.
    I couldn't disagree more. Bike riding is a wonderful feature of life in the Netherlands. It's clean, respectful of the environment, and it promotes health and fitness. If a cycle scheme like the one in Dublin helps encourage more people to use bicycles instead of cars and public transport, then that's a good thing. It won't happen overnight and I'm sure a scheme like this will have teething problems. Nevertheless, it is a positive initiative and everyone should try and be optimistic about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennehym View Post
    Yes - you're reading from the website, but I'm reading from article 10 of the terms and conditions, which is the actual legal agreement that you're signing up to. The two have a few subtle differences.
    Is that in your pack? I only signed up earlier today so have not read that. Anyway i won't be using any for more than half an hour so I'm not too concerned. Have me own bike for regular use

    No, the anti-theft device is what they call the built-in bike lock you're meant to use to secure it when you nip into the shop or whatever, it's in the basket here:
    How the frack does that device work?

    I'm not cynical either - I'm looking at how it's worked in Paris and the petty crime level in the areas it's deployed in here. That's realism, not cynicism.
    How did it go in Lyon and barcelona? the latter is not exactly renowned for low levels of petty crime. Apparently Decaux learned many lessons the hard way in Paris so maybe it'll work better here
    We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alonso View Post
    How did it go in Lyon and barcelona? the latter is not exactly renowned for low levels of petty crime. Apparently Decaux learned many lessons the hard way in Paris so maybe it'll work better here
    It seems to work very well in Barcelona. I have a friend there and she uses the bikes everyday to go everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert151410 View Post
    I am very cynical. I lived in Amsterdam in the late seventies. They had a yellow bike scheme. You just jumped on a yellow bike if you saw one available.

    They were all stolen in a few months. It won't work. We have no respect for our city, less so than Amsterdam which is clean and well maintained.

    Dublin is dirty.
    Well you can't "just jump" on a Dublin Bike. You need to put in credit card details.


    And if you don't respect your fellow Dubs and believe the place is dirty, the airport is very close to the city as is the port
    We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alonso View Post
    Is that in your pack?
    Not sure. They're listed on the website as a rather discrete, tucked away pdf link on the signup form.
    i won't be using any for more than half an hour so I'm not too concerned
    I'm not sure that anyone ever actually plans to have their bicycle stolen...
    Have me own bike for regular use
    As do I. I'm a fan of the cycling idea - I just think this is a ripoff and we're welcoming it with open arms in the midst of a recession!
    How the frack does that device work?
    Not sure, I didn't think to look at it too closely today.
    How did it go in Lyon and barcelona? the latter is not exactly renowned for low levels of petty crime.
    All I've heard from either location is anecdotal evidence, of the same kind of gist as the figures from Paris.
    Apparently Decaux learned many lessons the hard way in Paris so maybe it'll work better here
    I didn't see flotation devices on the bikes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alonso View Post
    Well you can't "just jump" on a Dublin Bike.
    Sure you can. You just have to mug the person on it first. Or swipe it when an inattentive tourist leaves it unattended for a moment.
    And if you don't respect your fellow Dubs and believe the place is dirty, the airport is very close to the city as is the port
    Ah, the IYDLIGTFO argument.
    Mind you, it's not a question of belief, it's a question of comparative observation.
    And the proximity of exit points is going to be useful in the next year or three as half of us emigrate chasing work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dennehym View Post
    Sure you can. You just have to mug the person on it first. Or swipe it when an inattentive tourist leaves it unattended for a moment.
    ...
    Why would you mug someone for a horrible bike when it's just as easy to do so for a nice good one?
    We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

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    Why would you bother to vandalise a bike at all alonso?
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    Just keep the bikes off the paths and on the road please!
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