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    I actually carried that relic in uniform at a few locations in Kildare about three years ago. The duties are generally carried out by local units of the Army Reserve (old F.C.A.)

    The Defence Forces have always taken part in these types of events. But your asked, do you want to do it, not detailed. Just last year I was part of an honour guard at the altar of a reopening of a local church after a two year refurbishment. It a great excuse to get dressed up in the dress uniforms (unfortunately funerals are all we normally get to wear them to) and grab a few new recruits.

    Any organisation can request this sort of service from the Defence Forces, so yes I think it could be done for other religions.

    Just a note: The pioneer pin is one of only two civilian emblems permitted by regulations to be worn on dress uniform. (over the centre of the right breast pocket)

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    Whatever next - the Angelus on radio and television ?

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    And is there any cost incurred Effin Effer by anyone?
    Time for the Irish Goverment to do the honorable thing and go. If thay have any honour left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Effin Effer!!! View Post
    I actually carried that relic in uniform at a few locations in Kildare about three years ago. The duties are generally carried out by local units of the Army Reserve (old F.C.A.)

    The Defence Forces have always taken part in these types of events. But your asked, do you want to do it, not detailed. Just last year I was part of an honour guard at the altar of a reopening of a local church after a two year refurbishment. It a great excuse to get dressed up in the dress uniforms (unfortunately funerals are all we normally get to wear them to) and grab a few new recruits.

    Any organisation can request this sort of service from the Defence Forces, so yes I think it could be done for other religions.

    Just a note: The pioneer pin is one of only two civilian emblems permitted by regulations to be worn on dress uniform. (over the centre of the right breast pocket)
    Is the fáinne the other one?
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    I see the silly season has started early this year.

    Shock as army participates in public activity.

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    I'm sure if there was a Protestant, Jewish or Muslim symbol equivalent to the Roman Catholic Pioneer Pin the army would have to permit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badboy2 View Post
    I see the silly season has started early this year.

    Shock as army participates in public activity.
    Answer the question, I want to know your opinion on whether the army should be involved in catholic ceremonies and should they be seen to be secular?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oscartango View Post
    I'm sure if there was a Protestant, Jewish or Muslim symbol equivalent to the Roman Catholic Pioneer Pin the army would have to permit it.
    Not what were are talking about. lol
    Time for the Irish Goverment to do the honorable thing and go. If thay have any honour left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Effin Effer!!! View Post
    I actually carried that relic in uniform at a few locations in Kildare about three years ago. The duties are generally carried out by local units of the Army Reserve (old F.C.A.)

    The Defence Forces have always taken part in these types of events. But your asked, do you want to do it, not detailed. Just last year I was part of an honour guard at the altar of a reopening of a local church after a two year refurbishment. It a great excuse to get dressed up in the dress uniforms (unfortunately funerals are all we normally get to wear them to) and grab a few new recruits.

    Any organisation can request this sort of service from the Defence Forces, so yes I think it could be done for other religions.

    Just a note: The pioneer pin is one of only two civilian emblems permitted by regulations to be worn on dress uniform. (over the centre of the right breast pocket)
    Firstly there should be no civilian emblems on a military dress uniform, they have no place whatsoever there.
    If, as you say, these human remains were here 3 years ago then why are they back again. It's like a bloody Rolling Stones Undead World Tour.
    Is this what our descendents have to look forward in 300 years time, the veneration of the little bones of Blessed Bono?
    FFS, it's on that level of bizarre.

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    Commie, I was just pointing out that the Defence Forces could not make an exception for a Roman Catholic emblem but not for other religions ... or could they ?

    On the question of costs, there must surely be a cost to the taxpayer involved in providing military personnel for such occasions.

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