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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    If you're worried about something as utterly innocuous as Pesco, I wonder how apoplectic you'd get over the Framework Nations Concept.
    Hopefully apoplectic enough to destroy the EU at the ballot box , as is already happening throughout Europe , much to your chagrin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll_On View Post
    So your strategy is to hide and avoid the big boys, grow a spine.
    Look at a map or a globe. There has only ever been one "big boy" who has caused death and destruction here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll_On View Post
    You're barking if you think the EU has any interest in conquering the third world. European nations gave that up over a hundred years ago, there's no profit in it if you can't force the locals to work for nothing I'm afraid.
    cough, cough, Iraq, cough.

    They didn't "give that up". They were phucked out!
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    Ireland will never get involved with this. It means that they will have to spend big big money on the defense forces, fighting ships, proper combat aircraft and more expensive toys for the army. It will not happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinemartin View Post
    Ireland will never get involved with this. It means that they will have to spend big big money on the defense forces, fighting ships, proper combat aircraft and more expensive toys for the army. It will not happen.
    What housing crisis? We need warships. EU commitments to meet and all.

    ‘A delegation is set to visit New Zealand shortly to look at a warship which could become a blueprint for the new ship — and could cost up to €200m to construct.

    A small group consisting of Department of Defence officials and experts from the Defence Forces have been invited by the New Zealand government to inspect HMNZS Canterbury, which was designed by the New Zealand navy.

    An MRV could measure up to 150m in length, dwarfing the navy’s largest vessel which is 90m long.’

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...ip-460791.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinemartin View Post
    Ireland will never get involved with this. It means that they will have to spend big big money on the defense forces, fighting ships, proper combat aircraft and more expensive toys for the army. It will not happen.
    They can always just offer our young people as sandbags for the Jerries, don't say our elite are above such scumbaggery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by He3 View Post
    What housing crisis? We need warships. EU commitments to meet and all.

    ‘A delegation is set to visit New Zealand shortly to look at a warship which could become a blueprint for the new ship — and could cost up to €200m to construct.

    A small group consisting of Department of Defence officials and experts from the Defence Forces have been invited by the New Zealand government to inspect HMNZS Canterbury, which was designed by the New Zealand navy.

    An MRV could measure up to 150m in length, dwarfing the navy’s largest vessel which is 90m long.’

    Navy considers
    What's your point, the Eithne replacement was meant to happen over a decade ago, and it won't happen until the early 2020's and will come out of the Defence budget, which is still so small as to make no difference to any Housing issue. Meanwhile of course we now have to pay a UK company for air ambulance transfers as we've cut the AC's budget so much they can't generate the needed airplanes, we're still driving unprotected MOWAG's in dangerous areas.

    But sure lets ignore that the Defence Budget is less than 700 million and pretend that it could magically solve all the social issues of the Republic
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    You can't project strength from a FUGA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RasherHash View Post
    They can always just offer our young people as sandbags for the Jerries, don't say our elite are above such scumbaggery.
    While I get that it's the easy target, you do understand that German isn't this great thing waiting to get untrained Paddies to do anything? They couldn't give a flying feck about Ireland's military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by He3 View Post
    What housing crisis? We need warships. EU commitments to meet and all.

    ‘A delegation is set to visit New Zealand shortly to look at a warship which could become a blueprint for the new ship — and could cost up to €200m to construct.

    A small group consisting of Department of Defence officials and experts from the Defence Forces have been invited by the New Zealand government to inspect HMNZS Canterbury, which was designed by the New Zealand navy.

    An MRV could measure up to 150m in length, dwarfing the navy’s largest vessel which is 90m long.’

    Navy considers
    It looks like a cargo ship...



    It's a landing ship, something you'd use for an invasion.

    On the plus side you'd get a whole lot more refugees on board.
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