Originally Posted by sgtharper

Yes, but it wasn't difficult in all fairness.



Oh dear, not exactly Oscar Wilde now, is it?

not exactly Oscar Wilde now, is it?

neither are you dear boy

Originally Posted by Schomberg

So, lets recap. Some Irish fellas are chatting on a website about doing something Irish fellas have been doing for donkeys years.

Clerical sexual abuse?
Membership of the IRA?

Both of these are illegal

Originally Posted by teapot

This thread about Irishmen joining the British Army is not really about 'mercenary' Irishmen joining the Army of another Foreign Power, is it? It's just THAT Foreign Power that gets up some people's noses... (I'm not trolling, I understand why...)
Irishmen (soldiers, sailors and later on, airmen) have fought for and been paid by:
France
Spain
Mexico (fighting other Irishmen in the United States Army)
Chile
The United States of America (fighting other Irishmen in the CSA Army)
The Confederate States of America (fighting other Irishmen in the US Army)
The Boer Army of South Africa (fighting other Irishmen in the British Army)
The Imperial German Army in WWI (fighting other Irishmen in the British,Australian,Canadian,and United States Armies)
The Spanish Republic in the Spanish Civil War (fighting other Irishmen in Franco's Blueshirt Division)
The Fascist Army of Franco (fighting other Irishmen in the POUM Militia and International Brigades)
and in lots of armies in lots of conflicts since... they have joined, served and fought in the Armies and other arms of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa,usually after they had emigrated there and those countries had become part of a Commonwealth force; or the US Army after they had emigrated there (esp Korea and Vietnam)
They have been in the French Foreign Legion fighting Algerians in North Africa and Vietnamese in French Indo-China.
They have been in the Spanish Foreign Legion fighting Riffs in Morrocco.
And these are just the 'official' armies. If you want to start on rebels we can go on to another page...
And if you look at it - in many of the above cases they were driven to do this by the fact that their own Country had nothing to offer them except poverty and hopelessness driven by corruption. So what's changed?

France, Spain, USA etc are not in the occupation of any part of our country unlike your Brit " 'eros " and haven't murdered countless Irish people down the centuries have they Einstein

Originally Posted by sgtharper

Yes, but it wasn't difficult in all fairness.



Oh dear, not exactly Oscar Wilde now, is it?

Well if I had the gift of prose that wilde had I'd hardly be wasting men time with a grunt like you now would I?

Originally Posted by SeamusNapoleon

Clerical sexual abuse?
Membership of the IRA?)

ba-boom-tish

Touche Seamus!

Originally Posted by Kimora

Unlike the Irish republic the UK has an NHS free at the point of use.

Soldiers injured use a specialist unit in Birmingham, then go to other units.

BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Home for injured soldiers opens


Home for injured soldiers opens
Major Jim Paton describes what the facility offers
The UK's first Army recovery centre for injured and unwell soldiers has opened in Edinburgh.

The £8.6m convalescing centre is a special 12-bed facility for soldiers at the Erskine Edinburgh Home.

Originally Posted by Kimora

Injured soldiers are treated in the Queen Elizebeth NHS hospital in Birmingham with NHS specialist staff. The Army medical corps does not have the specialist skills to treat them.

Queen Elizabeth Hospital Birmingham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"The hospital has the largest single-floor critical care unit in the world, with 100 beds and is the home of the Royal Centre for Defence Medicine for military personnel injured in conflict zones. It is also a regional centre for trauma and burns. The hospital is served by University station which is a five minute walk away."

And if the British health and social services are supposed to be so great, why does the British army have to go out every year begging ?

something a bit tasteless about you

Originally Posted by sgtharper

I made no claim to Britain being "paradise" or anything like it, though I happen to love living here and make no bones about it, for all it's faults. Neither did I say you were of unsound mind, simply ignorant, biased, unimagininative an for that matter, pathetically credulous like all your ilk. The fact is of course that unlike you I have dorect experience and considerable knowledge of the subject, you have nothing but your own prejudice, have you?

I have "a life", rather a decent one in fact, and I suspect it's been and will continue to be a more interesting and fulfilling one than yours.

Ofcourse you would your a Brit, you crowd just LOVE yourselves over there don't you. And if anyone happens to have justifable criticism of Britain and it's forces, well that's just begrudery and prejudice - especially " the faking OIrish ".

And it should be pointed that in the UN Human Development Index, Ireland is 7th while that paradise Britain is 28th !!!!

Indices & Data | Human Development Reports (HDR) | United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)

Originally Posted by daveL

something a bit tasteless about you

No!!

What's "tasteless" is the invasion of sovereign countries time after time and the murdering innocent men, women and children.

Originally Posted by teapot

This thread about Irishmen joining the British Army is not really about 'mercenary' Irishmen joining the Army of another Foreign Power, is it? It's just THAT Foreign Power that gets up some people's noses... (I'm not trolling, I understand why...)
Irishmen (soldiers, sailors and later on, airmen) have fought for and been paid by:
France
Spain
Mexico (fighting other Irishmen in the United States Army)
Chile
The United States of America (fighting other Irishmen in the CSA Army)
The Confederate States of America (fighting other Irishmen in the US Army)
The Boer Army of South Africa (fighting other Irishmen in the British Army)
The Imperial German Army in WWI (fighting other Irishmen in the British,Australian,Canadian,and United States Armies)
The Spanish Republic in the Spanish Civil War (fighting other Irishmen in Franco's Blueshirt Division)
The Fascist Army of Franco (fighting other Irishmen in the POUM Militia and International Brigades)
and in lots of armies in lots of conflicts since... they have joined, served and fought in the Armies and other arms of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa,usually after they had emigrated there and those countries had become part of a Commonwealth force; or the US Army after they had emigrated there (esp Korea and Vietnam)
They have been in the French Foreign Legion fighting Algerians in North Africa and Vietnamese in French Indo-China.
They have been in the Spanish Foreign Legion fighting Riffs in Morrocco.
And these are just the 'official' armies. If you want to start on rebels we can go on to another page...
And if you look at it - in many of the above cases they were driven to do this by the fact that their own Country had nothing to offer them except poverty and hopelessness driven by corruption. So what's changed?

and in the long list of Countries and Empires you have given........

which of those waged war on this Country??

which one of those maintains an Army of Occupation in a section of this Country??

which one of those has shot innocent Civilians protesting for Civil Rights on the Streets of their own City??

which one of those has sent Agents into this Country to Bomb innocent civilians in our Capital City and other Towns??

which one of those have run Murder Gangs in our Occupied territory.....and have carried out Massacres Like the Miami Showband murder and bomb attack??

which one of those has been found guilty in an International Court of Inhuman and Degrading Treatment, akin to Torture, against Irish Citizens??

which one of those Countries would not know precisely what to do with Citizens recruiting for the Power which inflicted such suffering on it's Citizens??